[nagdu] Going out during training

[Cindy Ray]

Don't think it has a thing to do with it.

On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:36 AM, solsticesinger wrote:

> I don't even know what this means. Of course, maybe this is because I'm up way past when I should be, but I honestly don't understand what a city in Florida has to do with whether or not we go out during guide dog training.
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training
> 
> 
>> Peter, really?  Come on...
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:36 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training
>> 
>> Hello Roxi and everyone,
>> 
>>   Then why bother getting the dog in the first place?
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training
>> 
>> 
>> I don't even see this as a guide dog program issue.  I'm an owner
>> trainer, a very competent traveler, and dog handler.  If I got a dog
>> from say, a breeder, and if it had foundation training, I'm still not
>> going to take that dog out to a bunch of new places right away.  Even
>> if it was proven that said dog could handle it and even if that dog
>> had a track record of being in public and dealing with it appropriately.
>> The dog is new to me and I'm new to it.  We need time to bond, to get
>> to know one another, to learn one another's movements and moods and
>> reactions to things.
>> If I want to go out and I have a new dog, I leave the dog home in a
>> crate.  I understand why the programs don't want handlers to leave
>> with the dog until later in class.
>> I of course think that the handler should be able to leave whenever
>> there aren't training activities and as long as the dog's needs have
>> been taken care of before leaving.
>> 
>> You also have the issue of liability.  Until you graduate the program
>> with that dog, it is still owned by the program and if something
>> happens in public and you or someone else is hurt because the handler
>> or the dog was not working appropriately, who's responsible for that?
>> The program is, so it only makes sense for the program staff to watch
>> you, at least for the first two weeks, or until they observe you and
>> the dog communicating smoothly.
>> 
>> Rox and the Botanical Barkers:
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