[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 10
Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Fri Feb 4 07:01:56 UTC 2011
Oh dear.
----- Original Message -----
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 10
> Rick
> I had a dog where the first time I took her to church, she decided if it
> was good enough for me to be on the pew then it was good enough for her.
> We played this game all the way threw mass.
> The next day we went, she stayed on the floor.
> Guess she decided it wasn't exciting enough for her smile.
>
> Original message:
>> Hello Listers,
>
>> I'm on my fourth dog from TSE. When going to church with my new dogs for
>> the
>> first time, some of them were really confused by the repeated standing
>> and
>> sitting, thinking that every time I stood up, it was time to leave. Some
>> of
>> them slept through all the activity. I guess they were the ones who got a
>> lot of church exposure from their puppy raisers.
>> Rick fox
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Issues (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
>> 2. attention all pa residence new law to help us with guide dog
>> read and respond asap (Passle Helminski)
>> 3. Re: Issues (d m gina)
>> 4. Re: Issues (Cindy Ray)
>> 5. Re: Blind-Drivable Car at Convention (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
>> 6. Re: The Seeing Eye & Ownership (Sandra e. Finley)
>> 7. UK: Blind woman left lying on the ground after her guide dog
>> was attacked (Ginger Kutsch)
>> 8. Fidelco: Charles H. Kaman, Helicopter Innovator, Dies at 91
>> (Ginger Kutsch)
>> 9. Re: Going out during training (Tracy Carcione)
>> 10. Re: Going out during training (Margo and Arrow)
>> 11. Blind Man Comes To The Rescue Of His Service Dog KRIS
>> (Ginger Kutsch)
>> 12. Re: Going out during training (Terra Syslo)
>> 13. going to church (Julie J)
>> 14. Re: going to church (Michael Hingson)
>> 15. Re: going to church (Tracy Carcione)
>> 16. Re: going to church (Albert J Rizzi)
>> 17. Re: Going out during training (Tracy Carcione)
>> 18. Re: UK: Blind woman left lying on the ground after her
>> guidedog was attacked (Doug Parisian)
>> 19. Re: Going out during training (Doug Parisian)
>> 20. Re: Going out during training (Peggy)
>> 21. Re: Going out during training (Peggy)
>> 22. Re: Going out during training (Peter Donahue)
>> 23. Re: going to church (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>> 24. Re: going to church (Peter Donahue)
>> 25. Re: The Seeing Eye & Ownership (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 26. Re: Going out during training (Peter Donahue)
>> 27. question for those who have had children (Jessica Pitzer)
>> 28. FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Bryan Brown)
>> 29. Re: going to church (Margo and Arrow)
>> 30. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>> 31. Re: going to church (Julie McGinnity)
>> 32. Re: question for those who have had children
>> (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>> 33. Re: going to church (Cindy Ray)
>> 34. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>> 35. Re: FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Brenda)
>> 36. Re: question for those who have had children
>> (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>> 37. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>> 38. Re: question for those who have had children
>> (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>> 39. Re: FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Marion Gwizdala)
>
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:52:40 -0800
>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issues
>> Message-ID: <67FB976B4B1745B6AC2BA589F6A76758 at tamidesktop>
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>
>> That's annoying! The phone call is.. The bit that started with "we knew
>> you were planning to come, so we've been talking about it ..." Well, I
>> don't think I would even notice my tact at that point as it leaped
>> headfirst
>> out the window shrieking. /evil grin/ Perhaps the woman thought she was
>> being nice and even thoughtful, but .... How RUDE!
>
>> Well, sounds like you have the matter in hand. I've never had the joys
>> of a
>> "we heard you were coming" phone call, but I've shown up to an event or
>> two
>> to be greeted at the door with something along those lines... Even when
>> I
>> had the cane pre-dog. /lol/ Used to be I could just show up at a place
>> and
>> find a seat and do what people do and be very happy under the radar.
>
>> Can't you just picture them all sitting around saying, "Cindy is coming!
>> Cindy is coming! By land or by sea... " /lol/
>
>> Well, I wonder if I'll ever get used to that sort of thing, since I'm
>> sure
>> it will happen again. Here, we made sure there's a clear path for you so
>> you can just sit here and be comfortable and Susie Q will bring you a
>> plate,
>> and here's a rug for Mitzi ..." I actually have -- and probably will
>> again
>> -- end up sitting where they put me because my own internal conflict over
>> the contrast between their apparent intended thoughtfulness and kindess
>> towards poor little blind me is so horrifically offensive and just
>> downright
>> hair-raising.
>
>> Ain;t it fun?
>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:32 PM
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> Subject: [nagdu] Issues
>
>> Well, I think I'll bring up a new issue just for grins. Let's imagine you
>> are going to give blood one day. Let's imagine that you are planning to
>> give
>> blood at this blood drive. OK, I don't have to imagine this because I am.
>> I
>> haven't been able to give for a couple of times because of an infected
>> tooth, but that's TMI. So I am truly looking forward to it. My phone
>> rang,
>> and the lady on the other end of the line identified herself, and she was
>> from the blood center. She said, "I understand you are planning to gie
>> blood
>> at the Westminster Blood Drive. Now, we understand you have a service
>> dog.
>> [I think that was her terminology.] We are going to be using a blood
>> mobile
>> and the aisles are narrow in there. We've been talking about it and
>> wondering if you could leave the dog at the refreshment end so he won't
>> get
>> stepped on." Who was talking about it. Why wouldn't they assume that I
>> had
>> been using a dog long enough to know how to handle situations like that?
>> Truth be told, I had had him in there when I accompanied Bob in the next
>> to
>> last time we were going to give. I don't doubt that the dog is btter off
>> left in a more comfortable place, but I don't need someone explaining to
>> me
>> why that might be and asking me if I would mind to not bring him in there
>> because of the narrow aisles. I have a feeling I would have thought of it
>> on
>> my own, and I did actually express my displeasure. I told her the fact
>> that
>> she assumed I wouldn't figure out the best place for my dog was rather
>> annoying. She said she was sorry, she had just wanted to make it better
>> and
>> guessed she had not. Before anybody tells me I might have been more
>> tactful,
>> I would say that they would be right, but I think after you've used a dog
>> six months or less, and especially after twenty-two years, you are likely
>> to
>> know how to handle the dog in a tight situation.
>
>> Cindy Lou
>
>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:24:12 -0500
>> From: Passle Helminski <passle at roadrunner.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] attention all pa residence new law to help us with
>> guide dog read and respond asap
>> Message-ID: <a06240857c96fcf49f344@[192.168.1.5]>
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>
>>> Hi,
>
>> Ken asked me to post his having a call on PA HB 165. Please cross post.
>
>> Passle
>
>>> hey passle please cross list to any lists that i'm not on.
>>> thanks
>>> ken
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <mailto:cj3639 at hotmail.com>Ken Quinn
>>> To: <mailto:blparent at nfbnet.org>NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc:
>>> <mailto:nfbp-students at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-students at yahoogroups.com
>>> ; <mailto:nfbp-parents at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-parents at yahoogroups.com
>>> ; <mailto:nfbp-talk at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-talk at yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:12 PM
>>> Subject: [NFB of Pennsylvania Students] attention all pa residence
>>> new law to help us with guide dog read and respond asap
>
>
>
>>> hello all,
>>> ken quinn here.
>>> recently the pa house representatives introduced hb 165 to help us with
>>> guide dogs. i am going to be having a conference call regarding the
>>> bill.
>> if
>>> all that are interested could please email me privately atht the
>>> following
>>> email
>>> <mailto:cj3639 at hotmail.com>cj3639 at hotmail.com and put dog bill in
>>> the subject line, it would be
>>> appreciated. i am looking to get a time from everyone and day of the
>>> week
>>> that would work best for people. i will than from those responding set a
>>> date and time, along with the conference call info send privately to
>>> you.
>>> thanks for responding.
>>> ken quinn
>
>
>
>
>> ------------------------------
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:24:55 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issues
>> Message-ID:
>
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>> Hello
>> Every three months I go into an area for the folks to draw blood from me.
>> My dog is with me at all times.
>> He lies under my feet, and doesn't move.
>> Everyone is happy to see him.
>> I have no problems at all.
>
>> Original message:
>>> Well, I think I'll bring up a new issue just for grins. Let's imagine
>>> you are going to give blood one day. Let's imagine that you are
>>> planning to give blood at this blood drive. OK, I don't have to imagine
>>> this because I am. I haven't been able to give for a couple of times
>>> because of an infected tooth, but that's TMI. So I am truly looking
>>> forward to it. My phone rang, and the lady on the other end of the line
>>> identified herself, and she was from the blood center. She said, "I
>>> understand you are planning to gie blood at the Westminster Blood
>>> Drive. Now, we understand you have a service dog. [I think that was her
>>> terminology.] We are going to be using a blood mobile and the aisles
>>> are narrow in there. We've been talking about it and wondering if you
>>> could leave the dog at the refreshment end so he won't get stepped on."
>>> Who was talking about it. Why wouldn't they assume that I had been
>>> using a dog long enough to know how to handle situations like that?
>>> Truth be told, I had ha
>>> d him in there when I accompanied Bob in the next to last time we were
>>> going to give. I don't doubt that the dog is btter off left in a more
>>> comfortable place, but I don't need someone explaining to me why that
>>> might be and asking me if I would mind to not bring him in there
>>> because of the narrow aisles. I have a feeling I would have thought of
>>> it on my own, and I did actually express my displeasure. I told her the
>>> fact that she assumed I wouldn't figure out the best place for my dog
>>> was rather annoying. She said she was sorry, she had just wanted to
>>> make it better and guessed she had not. Before anybody tells me I might
>>> have been more tactful, I would say that they would be right, but I
>>> think after you've used a dog six months or less, and especially after
>>> twenty-two years, you are likely to know how to handle the dog in a
>>> tight situation.
>
>>> Cindy Lou
>
>
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