[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 71, Issue 10

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Thu Feb 3 20:49:24 UTC 2011


Rick
I had a dog where the first time I took her to church, she decided if 
it was good enough for me to be on the pew then it was good enough for her.
We played this game all the way threw mass.
The next day we went, she stayed on the floor.
Guess she decided it wasn't exciting enough for her smile.

Original message:
> Hello Listers,

> I'm on my fourth dog from TSE. When going to church with my new dogs for the
> first time, some of them were really confused by the repeated standing and
> sitting, thinking that every time I stood up, it was time to leave. Some of
> them slept through all the activity. I guess they were the ones who got a
> lot of church exposure from their puppy raisers.
> Rick fox

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>    1. Re: Issues (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
>    2. attention all pa residence new law to help us with guide dog
>       read and respond asap (Passle Helminski)
>    3. Re: Issues (d m gina)
>    4. Re: Issues (Cindy Ray)
>    5. Re: Blind-Drivable Car at Convention (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
>    6. Re: The Seeing Eye & Ownership (Sandra e. Finley)
>    7. UK: Blind woman left lying on the ground after her guide  dog
>       was attacked (Ginger Kutsch)
>    8. Fidelco: Charles H. Kaman, Helicopter Innovator, Dies at 91
>       (Ginger Kutsch)
>    9. Re: Going out during training (Tracy Carcione)
>   10. Re: Going out during training (Margo and Arrow)
>   11. Blind Man Comes To The Rescue Of His Service Dog KRIS
>       (Ginger Kutsch)
>   12. Re: Going out during training (Terra Syslo)
>   13. going to church (Julie J)
>   14. Re: going to church (Michael Hingson)
>   15. Re: going to church (Tracy Carcione)
>   16. Re: going to church (Albert J Rizzi)
>   17. Re: Going out during training (Tracy Carcione)
>   18. Re: UK: Blind woman left lying on the ground after her
>       guidedog was attacked (Doug Parisian)
>   19. Re: Going out during training (Doug Parisian)
>   20. Re: Going out during training (Peggy)
>   21. Re: Going out during training (Peggy)
>   22. Re: Going out during training (Peter Donahue)
>   23. Re: going to church (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>   24. Re: going to church (Peter Donahue)
>   25. Re: The Seeing Eye & Ownership (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>   26. Re: Going out during training (Peter Donahue)
>   27. question for those who have had children (Jessica Pitzer)
>   28. FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Bryan Brown)
>   29. Re: going to church (Margo and Arrow)
>   30. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>   31. Re: going to church (Julie McGinnity)
>   32. Re: question for those who have had children
>       (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>   33. Re: going to church (Cindy Ray)
>   34. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>   35. Re: FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Brenda)
>   36. Re: question for those who have had children
>       (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>   37. Re: question for those who have had children (Cindy Ray)
>   38. Re: question for those who have had children
>       (PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC))
>   39. Re: FIDELCO ownership rights and other things. (Marion Gwizdala)


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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:52:40 -0800
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issues
> Message-ID: <67FB976B4B1745B6AC2BA589F6A76758 at tamidesktop>
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> That's annoying!  The phone call is..  The bit that started with "we knew
> you were planning to come, so we've been talking about it ..."  Well, I
> don't think I would even notice my tact at that point as it leaped headfirst
> out the window shrieking.  /evil grin/  Perhaps the woman thought she was
> being nice and even thoughtful, but ....  How RUDE!

> Well, sounds like you have the matter in hand.  I've never had the joys of a
> "we heard you were coming" phone call, but I've shown up to an event or two
> to be greeted at the door with something along those lines...  Even when I
> had the cane pre-dog.  /lol/  Used to be I could just show up at a place and
> find a seat and do what people do and be very happy under the radar.

> Can't you just picture them all sitting around saying, "Cindy is coming!
> Cindy is coming!  By land or by sea... "  /lol/

> Well, I wonder if I'll ever get used to that sort of thing, since I'm sure
> it will happen again.  Here, we made sure there's a clear path for you so
> you can just sit here and be comfortable and Susie Q will bring you a plate,
> and here's a rug for Mitzi ..."  I actually have -- and probably will again
> -- end up sitting where they put me because my own internal conflict over
> the contrast between their apparent intended thoughtfulness and kindess
> towards poor little blind me is so horrifically offensive and just downright
> hair-raising.

> Ain;t it fun?

> Tami Smith-Kinney

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:32 PM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] Issues

> Well, I think I'll bring up a new issue just for grins. Let's imagine you
> are going to give blood one day. Let's imagine that you are planning to give
> blood at this blood drive. OK, I don't have to imagine this because I am. I
> haven't been able to give for a couple of times because of an infected
> tooth, but that's TMI. So I am truly looking forward to it. My phone rang,
> and the lady on the other end of the line identified herself, and she was
> from the blood center. She said, "I understand you are planning to gie blood
> at the Westminster Blood Drive. Now, we understand you have a service dog.
> [I think that was her terminology.] We are going to be using a blood mobile
> and the aisles are narrow in there. We've been talking about it and
> wondering if you could leave the dog at the refreshment end so he won't get
> stepped on." Who was talking about it. Why wouldn't they assume that I had
> been using a dog long enough to know how to handle situations like that?
> Truth be told, I had had him in there when I accompanied Bob in the next to
> last time we were going to give. I don't doubt that the dog is btter off
> left in a more comfortable place, but I don't need someone explaining to me
> why that might be and asking me if I would mind to not bring him in there
> because of the narrow aisles. I have a feeling I would have thought of it on
> my own, and I did actually express my displeasure. I told her the fact that
> she assumed I wouldn't figure out the best place for my dog was rather
> annoying. She said she was sorry, she had just wanted to make it better and
> guessed she had not. Before anybody tells me I might have been more tactful,
> I would say that they would be right, but I think after you've used a dog
> six months or less, and especially after twenty-two years, you are likely to
> know how to handle the dog in a tight situation.

> Cindy Lou


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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:24:12 -0500
> From: Passle Helminski <passle at roadrunner.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] attention all pa residence new law to help us with
>         guide dog read and respond asap
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>> Hi,

> Ken asked me to post his having a call on PA HB 165.  Please cross post.

> Passle

>> hey passle please cross list to any lists that i'm not on.
>> thanks
>> ken
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mailto:cj3639 at hotmail.com>Ken Quinn
>> To: <mailto:blparent at nfbnet.org>NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Cc:
>> <mailto:nfbp-students at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-students at yahoogroups.com
>> ; <mailto:nfbp-parents at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-parents at yahoogroups.com
>> ; <mailto:nfbp-talk at yahoogroups.com>nfbp-talk at yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:12 PM
>> Subject: [NFB of Pennsylvania Students] attention all pa residence
>> new law to help us with guide dog read and respond asap



>> hello all,
>> ken quinn here.
>> recently the pa house representatives introduced hb 165 to help us with
>> guide dogs. i am going to be having a conference call regarding the bill.
> if
>> all that are interested could please email me privately atht the following
>> email
>> <mailto:cj3639 at hotmail.com>cj3639 at hotmail.com and put dog bill in
>> the subject line, it would be
>> appreciated. i am looking to get a time from everyone and day of the week
>> that would work best for people. i will than from those responding set a
>> date and time, along with the conference call info send privately to you.
>> thanks for responding.
>> ken quinn




> ------------------------------

> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:24:55 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Issues
> Message-ID:

> <20110203032455.30682.42669 at domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

> Hello
> Every three months I go into an area for the folks to draw blood from me.
> My dog is with me at all times.
> He lies under my feet, and doesn't move.
> Everyone is happy to see him.
> I have no problems at all.

> Original message:
>> Well, I think I'll bring up a new issue just for grins. Let's imagine
>> you are going to give blood one day. Let's imagine that you are
>> planning to give blood at this blood drive. OK, I don't have to imagine
>> this because I am. I haven't been able to give for a couple of times
>> because of an infected tooth, but that's TMI. So I am truly looking
>> forward to it. My phone rang, and the lady on the other end of the line
>> identified herself, and she was from the blood center. She said, "I
>> understand you are planning to gie blood at the Westminster Blood
>> Drive. Now, we understand you have a service dog. [I think that was her
>> terminology.] We are going to be using a blood mobile and the aisles
>> are narrow in there. We've been talking about it and wondering if you
>> could leave the dog at the refreshment end so he won't get stepped on."
>> Who was talking about it. Why wouldn't they assume that I had been
>> using a dog long enough to know how to handle situations like that?
>> Truth be told, I had ha
>>  d him in there when I accompanied Bob in the next to last time we were
>> going to give. I don't doubt that the dog is btter off left in a more
>> comfortable place, but I don't need someone explaining to me why that
>> might be and asking me if I would mind to not bring him in there
>> because of the narrow aisles. I have a feeling I would have thought of
>> it on my own, and I did actually express my displeasure. I told her the
>> fact that she assumed I wouldn't figure out the best place for my dog
>> was rather annoying. She said she was sorry, she had just wanted to
>> make it better and guessed she had not. Before anybody tells me I might
>> have been more tactful, I would say that they would be right, but I
>> think after you've used a dog six months or less, and especially after
>> twenty-two years, you are likely to know how to handle the dog in a
>> tight situation.

>> Cindy Lou


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