[nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs

[cheryl echevarria]

There is someone here in NY that I had met at my first NFB convention in Atlanta, she is a guide dog user, but no longer as an NFB member, she lives here in NY. She is muslim from I think Pakistan, Margo may know of her, Nooria Nodrat, she lost her vision when someone hit her in the head with a brick and almost died.

She got a guide dog, her family disowned her when she did.  Go figure! She is starting her own organization for women, but she also runs in the New York City Marathon as well.

I miss her!


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cindy Ray<mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> 
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs


  Actually, thre are some Muslims who are getting dogs now. They are having to do a lot of educating, but there are a few. They have a group on the internet, but it is exclusive.

  On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:29 PM, alex wrote:

  > hi guys Alex Atlantic here.
  > well if muslims cabs drivers have a problems with us riding in their cars then they should not be driving cabs at all.  also I know a muslim guy that wants a guide dog because of his muslim outlook he cannot have a dog because they say that a dog is not pure.  so because of that is why muslim person cannot have a dog.  but they can drink to me it does not make any cents because drinking is against their faith.
  > 
  > On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
  > 
  >> Is it just me, or does the washing unclean objects/body parts/etc. seven times sound a little obsessive compulsive?
  >> --
  >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
  >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Lisa Irving wrote:
  >> 
  >>> 
  >>> Hi Dan,
  >>> 
  >>> It can be exasperating when some one perceives their religious preferences supersede the law.
  >>> 
  >>> I've discussed this matter; guide dogs riding in cabs driven by Muslim cab drivers. A Muslim friend of mine explained to me their hand washing rituals and why they frequently engage in this ritual. I get it. She also told me that the drivers who are insistant  that they won't transport a dog of any type, tends to be devout about his beliefs. Nevertheless, she agrees with me that such beliefs should not over ride laws. Together, we came up with a viable solution. I haven't been in a position where I have tried this.
  >>> 
  >>> I'm all right carrying handy wipes and offering them to the devout Muslim. It's a gamble. The devout Muslim faith isn't going to disappear anytime soon, nor are my rights as a person with a disability. So, finding common ground and the middle plane seems to make logical sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>>
  >>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
  >>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:16 PM
  >>> Subject: [nagdu] And that reminds me of the cab driver issue
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>>> And on the subject of cab drivers, it is patently ridiculous that someone's
  >>>> supposed religious concerns should even be an issue for us. I'm referring to
  >>>> the Muslim cab drivers you mentioned.
  >>>> It just shows that our rights as blind people mean much less or nothing at
  >>>> all when compared to some idiot cab driver.
  >>>> 
  >>>> Dan W.
  >>>> 
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