[nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Sat Feb 19 14:06:03 UTC 2011


Nooriya is from Afghanistan.  She's started an organization to help blind
women there.  When I talked to her about how badly she was treated,
because she is blind and female, it made me really appreciate how good we
have it here.
Tracy

> There is someone here in NY that I had met at my first NFB convention in
> Atlanta, she is a guide dog user, but no longer as an NFB member, she
> lives here in NY. She is muslim from I think Pakistan, Margo may know of
> her, Nooria Nodrat, she lost her vision when someone hit her in the head
> with a brick and almost died.
>
> She got a guide dog, her family disowned her when she did.  Go figure! She
> is starting her own organization for women, but she also runs in the New
> York City Marathon as well.
>
> I miss her!
>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Cindy Ray<mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>   To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>   Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:52 PM
>   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Muslim cab drivers: not a slam on their beliefs
>
>
>   Actually, thre are some Muslims who are getting dogs now. They are
> having to do a lot of educating, but there are a few. They have a group
> on the internet, but it is exclusive.
>
>   On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:29 PM, alex wrote:
>
>   > hi guys Alex Atlantic here.
>   > well if muslims cabs drivers have a problems with us riding in their
> cars then they should not be driving cabs at all.  also I know a
> muslim guy that wants a guide dog because of his muslim outlook he
> cannot have a dog because they say that a dog is not pure.  so because
> of that is why muslim person cannot have a dog.  but they can drink to
> me it does not make any cents because drinking is against their faith.
>   >
>   > On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>   >
>   >> Is it just me, or does the washing unclean objects/body parts/etc.
> seven times sound a little obsessive compulsive?
>   >> --
>   >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>   >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Lisa Irving wrote:
>   >>
>   >>>
>   >>> Hi Dan,
>   >>>
>   >>> It can be exasperating when some one perceives their religious
> preferences supersede the law.
>   >>>
>   >>> I've discussed this matter; guide dogs riding in cabs driven by
> Muslim cab drivers. A Muslim friend of mine explained to me their
> hand washing rituals and why they frequently engage in this ritual.
> I get it. She also told me that the drivers who are insistant  that
> they won't transport a dog of any type, tends to be devout about his
> beliefs. Nevertheless, she agrees with me that such beliefs should
> not over ride laws. Together, we came up with a viable solution. I
> haven't been in a position where I have tried this.
>   >>>
>   >>> I'm all right carrying handy wipes and offering them to the devout
> Muslim. It's a gamble. The devout Muslim faith isn't going to
> disappear anytime soon, nor are my rights as a person with a
> disability. So, finding common ground and the middle plane seems to
> make logical sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner"
> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>>
>   >>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>   >>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:16 PM
>   >>> Subject: [nagdu] And that reminds me of the cab driver issue
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>> And on the subject of cab drivers, it is patently ridiculous that
> someone's
>   >>>> supposed religious concerns should even be an issue for us. I'm
> referring to
>   >>>> the Muslim cab drivers you mentioned.
>   >>>> It just shows that our rights as blind people mean much less or
> nothing at
>   >>>> all when compared to some idiot cab driver.
>   >>>>
>   >>>> Dan W.
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
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