[nagdu] Access problems in San Diego

[Lyn Gwizdak]

Thanks, Marion.

I'm going to go to this business again with a guide dog using friend and 
I'll print out the law you attached in the Word doc.

I'm not "Linda" anymore - I'm Lyn now.  thanks.

I'll keep everyone posted.

In the past, I've tried to contact the California NAGDU group and basically 
get ignored.  Guess they're not interested in new members. They're way up in 
our North County anyway and pretty unaccessible to me down here in SD.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Access problems in San Diego


> Linda,
>    I would suggest that you and the California Association of Guide Dog
> Users get in touch with this person's supervisor to help them become
> educated on California law. I have attached the California statute and it
> clearly states that violation of the statute is a criminal offense.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NFBnet NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:49 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Access problems in San Diego
>
>
>> Marion,
>> Below is a response my friend, Lisa, got from the police here when she
>> asked them what recourse we had in response to an access denial in a
>> business here.
>>
>> She emailed the officer on my behalf after I told her about an incident 
>> of
>> denial of access in this guy's business because of my guide dog. the guy
>> appeared to be Arab by his accent and he didn't care if he was violating
>> the law - NO DOG.  I called my City Councilmember.  they gave me the
>> number for San Diego Disability coordinator's office.  they said they 
>> only
>> intervene if the access denial happened in a City owned building or
>> office.  they told me to go to the State AG office.  They were no help
>> either - no real person to talk to and no way to get one.  I called the
>> State CCB office and got someone from their guide dog grooup.  they told
>> me to talk to our police department.  And this below is their response to
>> the incident.
>>
>> "the situation you described is not criminal and that is what the Police
>> Department deals with, Criminal matters.  What your friend is 
>> experiencing
>> is a Civil matter.  I attached some basic laws that your friend with the
>> Guide Dog should know or have been told.  These are very common laws that
>> even businesses should be aware of.  There is a number at the bottom you
>> can call for more help.  Good luck!
>>
>>
>> Luis A. Roman
>> "Louie"
>> Community Liaison Officer (820s) & Facilities
>> Mid-City Division, San Diego Police Dept.
>> 4310 Landis Street, MS-785
>> San Diego, CA. 92105
>> Desk: (619) 516-3038
>> Fax:   (619) 516-3058
>> lroman at pd.sandiego.gov "
>>
>>
>>
>> This officer then attached a copy of a "Question and Answer" thing from
>> the ADA.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question is how to enforce the law here????  The incident occured in
>> early December while I was downtown before an appointment.  The store
>> owner now thinks it's OK to keep service dogs out and that it is OK to do
>> as he pleases in regards to obeying the laws of this country.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any California listers who read this - what do you recommend I do?
>>
>>
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>>
>> 619-405-5554
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