[nagdu] Discrimination

cheryl echevarria cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 20 16:09:48 UTC 2011 

of course not, that is why I was just trying to ask without insulting someone. Again, sometimes when we type something doesn't come over the way we want it to.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Weiner<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> 
  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination


  I certainly agree that the hot line is necessary and applaud NAGDU for this
  step.
  My comment is more a comment on the sad state of affairs which makes it
  necessary, I'm sure you understood I wasn't criticizing the hot line,
  right?--smile

  Dan

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
  Of cheryl echevarria
  Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:03 PM
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

  I myself feel especially since I was not born blind, and had learned over
  the past 8 years who to get skills and mobility, etc to try and become as
  independent as I can.

  Unfortunately, in our own country, we have to do this. We have to fight as
  Marion and others said at NAGDU Seminar in Orlando, when someone asked what
  does NAGDU do. 

  We represent the consumer, we not only represent ourselves for others who
  need the help.

  If everything in the world worked the way it is supposed. People would hire
  the blind with no problems and we wouldn't worry about the workforce bill to
  pay people with disabilities below the minimum wages. We wouldn't be worried
  about our people in congress democrat or republican, whether or not we are
  going to get our disability checks, or medicare paid or veterans taken care
  of. 

  This hotline is necessary to help and get the right answers out to the
  public and consumers, even the police departments don't know the laws in
  their own states.


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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dan Weiner<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>>
    To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination


    Rebecca, I agree with you totally and get your point.
    I have often said on these lists that it's a sad commentary on our
  situation
    as blind people that, after more than eighty years of guide dog training
    here in the USA, we still need to worry about access.
    That isn't to say, of course, that I don't applaud and other
    consumer organizations who are taking up the gauntlet on this issue.

    Cordially,

    Dan and the Carter Nut

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
  [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
    Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
    Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:50 AM
    To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

    Referring to Marion's post on committing the NAGDU hotline to memory, is
    anybody else bothered by the fact that this even has to be done? 
    I have very few phone numbers stored in my head, mostly due to the fact
  that
    my cell phone stores numbers.  So, my point is that a number must both be
    really important, and be used a whole heck of a lot for me to have it in
  my
    head.  
    Nobody in this day and age should have a need to use NAGDU's hotline that
    frequently. 
    See the problem, guys? 


    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
  [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
    Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
    Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:09 AM
    To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

    Gloria,
    I'm curious, why are you worried about this now? Is there a deeper issue? 
    I ask because it never crossed my mind to worry about this issue. Maybe
  that
    was because I was young and niaeve. 
    Access issues suck, so I'm curious to know why you'd choose to get a dog
  if
    this weighs heavily on you. 


    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
  [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
    Of Gloria G
    Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:25 PM
    To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

    Thanks Julie. Your thoughts were helpful.
    Gloria
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com<mailto:julielj at neb.rr.com<mailto:julielj at neb.rr.com%3Cmailto:julielj at neb.rr.com>>>
    To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
    <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:20 PM
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination


    > Gloria,
    >
    > For me, no, I extremely rarely have issues of discrimination because of
  my

    > guide dog.  Well, I rarely have descrimination issues of any variety.  I

    > honestly have no idea if this is because I am a scary person, the area I

    > live, my particular dog, the specific places I go or some other factor. 
    > Others experience access issues more often than I do, but I wouldn't say

    > it's routine for any of us.
    >
    > There are lots and lots of people and resources available to assist you 
    > with an access issue should one come up.  My best advice is don't worry 
    > about and deal with it if one should come up.  That's all you can do. 
    > *smile*
    >
    > Julie
    >
    >
    >
    > On 7/19/2011 1:32 PM, Gloria G wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I was wondering if many of you have experienced discrimination because 
    >> you were guide dog users? I mean is it pretty common for buisnesses to 
    >> refuse you service or make negative commants because of your guide, if
  so

    >> please describe the situation and explain how you handled it if you
  would

    >> like? Thanks!
    >> Gloria
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