[nagdu] Discrimination
PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Wed Jul 20 16:23:48 UTC 2011
Dan, you've got it.
The hotline is a very good thing.
All I'm saying is that cell phones and their ability to store numbers mean that very few people have numbers in their heads anymore. I have friends whom I love and whom I talk to on a regular basis. If one of them got deleted from my phone, I'd not recogonize the number when they called or texted.
I have less then ten numbers in my head. One is my home number, one is my cell, another is my husband's cell, one is his parents (only because I called that number a lot when we were dating back in the day) and the other is my parents number.
My point is that it is no longer worth my time and energy tocommit a number to memory... unless I call it a whole heck of a lot.
Nobody should need to call the NAGDU hotline that frequently. Nobody should have that many access issues, or that many questions. If we do, something is very wrong.
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:08 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
I certainly agree that the hot line is necessary and applaud NAGDU for this
step.
My comment is more a comment on the sad state of affairs which makes it
necessary, I'm sure you understood I wasn't criticizing the hot line,
right?--smile
Dan
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Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
I myself feel especially since I was not born blind, and had learned over
the past 8 years who to get skills and mobility, etc to try and become as
independent as I can.
Unfortunately, in our own country, we have to do this. We have to fight as
Marion and others said at NAGDU Seminar in Orlando, when someone asked what
does NAGDU do.
We represent the consumer, we not only represent ourselves for others who
need the help.
If everything in the world worked the way it is supposed. People would hire
the blind with no problems and we wouldn't worry about the workforce bill to
pay people with disabilities below the minimum wages. We wouldn't be worried
about our people in congress democrat or republican, whether or not we are
going to get our disability checks, or medicare paid or veterans taken care
of.
This hotline is necessary to help and get the right answers out to the
public and consumers, even the police departments don't know the laws in
their own states.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Weiner<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
Rebecca, I agree with you totally and get your point.
I have often said on these lists that it's a sad commentary on our
situation
as blind people that, after more than eighty years of guide dog training
here in the USA, we still need to worry about access.
That isn't to say, of course, that I don't applaud and other
consumer organizations who are taking up the gauntlet on this issue.
Cordially,
Dan and the Carter Nut
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
Referring to Marion's post on committing the NAGDU hotline to memory, is
anybody else bothered by the fact that this even has to be done?
I have very few phone numbers stored in my head, mostly due to the fact
that
my cell phone stores numbers. So, my point is that a number must both be
really important, and be used a whole heck of a lot for me to have it in
my
head.
Nobody in this day and age should have a need to use NAGDU's hotline that
frequently.
See the problem, guys?
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Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
Gloria,
I'm curious, why are you worried about this now? Is there a deeper issue?
I ask because it never crossed my mind to worry about this issue. Maybe
that
was because I was young and niaeve.
Access issues suck, so I'm curious to know why you'd choose to get a dog
if
this weighs heavily on you.
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[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Gloria G
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
Thanks Julie. Your thoughts were helpful.
Gloria
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From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com<mailto:julielj at neb.rr.com>>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
> Gloria,
>
> For me, no, I extremely rarely have issues of discrimination because of
my
> guide dog. Well, I rarely have descrimination issues of any variety. I
> honestly have no idea if this is because I am a scary person, the area I
> live, my particular dog, the specific places I go or some other factor.
> Others experience access issues more often than I do, but I wouldn't say
> it's routine for any of us.
>
> There are lots and lots of people and resources available to assist you
> with an access issue should one come up. My best advice is don't worry
> about and deal with it if one should come up. That's all you can do.
> *smile*
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2011 1:32 PM, Gloria G wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if many of you have experienced discrimination because
>> you were guide dog users? I mean is it pretty common for buisnesses to
>> refuse you service or make negative commants because of your guide, if
so
>> please describe the situation and explain how you handled it if you
would
>> like? Thanks!
>> Gloria
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