[nagdu] extremely basic guide dog questions...

Sun Jul 24 22:10:36 UTC 2011

Thanks for the correction. I should include that I attended training just 
over four years ago when I give information.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
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> actually, the dogs are used to being touched when they relieve now, 
> because
> there are blind training department people who work them and relieve them
> now, so they are used to being touched during relieving.  It's a huge
> improvement over the days of having to get the dog used to that, with
> everything else the dog is getting used to with a new handler.
>
> Remember, the dog is used to its trainer.  It's been worked by other staff
> people, but for a number of weeks, it has spent most of its time with that
> trainer.  It has to get used to you, as much as you have to get used to 
> him
> or her.  It's a learning time for both of you.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Gloria G
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 3:53 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] extremely basic guide dog questions...
>
> Thanks for all the inputs
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] extremely basic guide dog questions...
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>
>> To answer both of your questions:
>>
>>    If I remember correctly, the dogs have not had someone touch their
>> backs when relieving when they are given to you, so they have to get used
>> to it. For this very reason, the first few times, one of the trainers 
>> will
>
>> tell you what is going on.
>>
>>    At the school, they have the dogs go on concrete, but I personally do
>> not like this. For my dog, concrete/cement/black top are for working. You
>> walk on them, but you don't park on them. I like having this distinction;
>> it keeps her from doing her business in inappropriate places.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] extremely basic guide dog questions...
>>
>>
>>> Are guide dogs okay for the most part with its handler touching their
>>> back while they are using the bathroom, or is this something that has to
>>> be taught to them.
>>> Gloria
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:48 AM
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>>>
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think my answers will be much different from everyone Else's
>>>> but, here you go.  BTW I have trained my own guides, meaning they 
>>>> didn't
>
>>>> come from a program.
>>>>
>>>> A.  When the dog stops sniffing and circling, I lightly touch the dog's
>>>> back.  I can tell what's going on by the curve of the dog's back.  I
>>>> place my foot near the back end of the dog as a sort of landmark.  When
>>>> the dog is done, he moves out of the way and I use a plastic bag to 
>>>> pick
>
>>>> up the poo.
>>>>
>>>> B. I have a pretty good idea of when my dog is going to need to go.   I
>>>> try to ask in advance if there is an outdoor trash can around.  If I'm
>>>> not sure where a trash can is, I've taken a turn down the next alley to
>>>> find a dumpster.  I live in a very small town where walking down random
>>>> alleys is not dangerous.   It is also possible to teach the dog to
>>>> locate a trash can for you.
>>>>
>>>> C.  My current dog will pull over into the grass if he needs to go.
>>>>
>>>> cane vs. dog
>>>> A dog can keep a straight line through snow, mud, open areas like a
>>>> field or parking lot.  A dog can target specific objects and take you
>>>> right to them, like a door, stairs, elevator, counter, Coke machine 
>>>> etc.
>
>>>> A dog can plan a route well in advance of encountering the actual
>>>> obstacles.  A dog will stop or take you around overhead obstacles.  A
>>>> dog can be patterned to a route even when it might be difficult for you
>>>> to provide directional cues during the route.   Most dogs will remember
>>>> places you've been and point them out or suggest them in the future.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> On 7/23/2011 3:22 PM, Chris Harrington wrote:
>>>>> Hi!!!
>>>>> My name is Chris Harrington, and I've been examining various messages
>>>>> on
>>>>> this list for a couple of weeks now, and find getting a guide dog
>>>>> extremely
>>>>> interesting. I have several basic questions for people who currently
>>>>> own
>>>>> them, and appolagize if my questions are basic. The one I've been
>>>>> wondering
>>>>> about, is um, waste management so to speak... When your dog takes a
>>>>> crap, A:
>>>>> how do you find it to clean it up? B. Ware do you store such materials
>>>>> until
>>>>> you can dispose of them? C. if your dog needs to go, how does he let
>>>>> you
>>>>> know? Also, what all does a dog do that a cane can't?
>>>>> Thanks to anyone who can successfully answer my questions!!
>>>>> Have a great day, and thank you!!!!!
>>>>> Chris Harrington
>>>>>
>>>>>
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