[nagdu] [Bulk] a cane and dog discussion

[Tami Kinney]

Cheryl,

Agreed. I'm still thinking about my answer while I wake up enough to
make sense, but I will get to it.  But it is a good question, and after
all the discussions of the topic I've gotten to read and then answer as
i started to figure it out, I still find I learn something new from what
other guide dog users have to say in a new discussion. Young guide dog
users (by age or by length of guide dog use) will always be asking -- at
least the smart ones will.

So a guide dog user like Julie and the friend with whom she is
discussing the matter will be less likely to be caught flat-footed when
her dog gets an owie.  As opposed to being one of those people who
appears on the news to be quoted as saying, "I can't leave the house
without my dog who gives me independence..."

On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 06:44 -0400, cheryl echevarria wrote:
> Again, she is asking a question, I think it is a fair one.
> 
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: B Avila Guerrero<mailto:guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net> 
>   To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>   Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 6:22 AM
>   Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Bulk] a cane and dog discussion
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> 
>   Julie, with all due respect,
>   What difference does it make what we think? What matters is what works for
>   you and how you will travel best, be safe and as independent as you want to
>   be.
> 
>   I have been on two lists of Dog guide users for the past few months, and so
>   far, and I don't mean to insult any one, but what I have found are very
>   judgmental and opinionated people.
> 
>   My advice and take it for what it is worth, work with your dog, your school
>   and do what is best for you.
>   Bertha 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>   Of Julie McGinnity
>   Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:46 AM
>   To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>   Subject: [Bulk] [nagdu] a cane and dog discussion
> 
>   Hello everyone.
> 
>   It is very late, so I hope I make sense as I pose the following
>   discussion to you.  A friend and I are engaged in an interesting
>   arguement.  We are talking about guide dog users and how much they use
>   their canes and a few other things.  I'd just like to pose a few
>   questions.  (Some of them may seem rather basic.)
> 
>   Do you think that guide dog users are just as independent as cane
>   users when it comes to travelling?
> 
>   Do you think you lose cane skills if  you use a dog the majority of the
>   time?
> 
> 
>   Do you think that the majority of dog handlers are bad cane users?
> 
>   I know these are really general questions, and if you can't answer
>   them with direct answers, please, just your observations or
>   experiences will suffice.  I'm just very curious about this.  I want
>   to know what people think, and I don't really want to seem too
>   invested in this or as though I am taking a side.  I'm pretty young
>   and a relatively new guide dog user, so I know there are things I
>   don't know and haven't seen yet.  I'm more interested in what you guys
>   say.
> 
>   Thanks.  Sorry if my late night/early morning ramblings make no sense.
> 
>   -- 
>   Julie McG
>    Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>   Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>   Eyes for the Blind
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