[nagdu] pace was Do you ever get angry withyourdogsand howtocontroleit?

Lyn Gwizdak linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Sun Mar 6 01:14:04 UTC 2011 

Landon has a great pull when we get off the bus and he realizes that we are 
going to the Naval Medical Center to do our monthly program with the 
servicemembers.   That is off the bus, cross the street, walk down the 
sidewalk and turn into the walkway into the base.  And then past the guard 
shack, down the walkway into the courtyard and all the way to catch the 
on-base shutle to the place we play with the guys.  No matter how much we go 
there, Landon always has a great pull!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pace was Do you ever get angry withyourdogsand 
howtocontroleit?


> Julie,
>
> I like the random high value treats and the jogging a little too. I'll 
> also try more physical affection too. The varying of routes seems to work 
> when they're new. We have half a dozen ways to get home. Variation of 
> familiar routes doesn't appear to be much of a motivator. Thanks!
>
> Lisa and Bernie I
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] pace was Do you ever get angry with yourdogsand 
> howtocontroleit?
>
>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> I've found that the best way to get moving faster is to vary the route. 
>> If I do the same thing day after day, I'll notice that our pace gets 
>> slower and slower, at least on the way there.
>>
>> I use treats too.  Just a random treat at the corner seems to perk him up 
>> a bit.  I just use his regular kibble for treats because he is highly 
>> food motivated and I have to be very careful of his diet.
>>
>> You might also try the happy voice along with just moving faster 
>> yourself.
>>
>> This is something pretty unconventional, but when Monty was younger I 
>> used to stop and play with him every few blocks just to break up the 
>> routine. He knows to jump up on cue and I sometimes use this when I know 
>> he needs either stress relief or perking up.  He likes to jump up and 
>> when he gets to, there is an immediate difference in his work.  But like 
>> I said this is pretty unconventional, just thought I'd toss it out there 
>> as food for thought.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogsand 
>> howtocontroleit?
>>
>>
>>> I'm challenged in trying to modify my dog's pace. He does what I deem, 
>>> lollygag. I end up doing stutter steps and, I feel less confident. I try 
>>> to catch my self straining to see what I no longer see with accuracy. 
>>> When Bernie  is doing a new route, his pace is perfect for me. A month 
>>> ago, we cruised for a few miles on the board walk near a beach. So, I 
>>> know he can walk at a quicker pace. This is one of my sources of 
>>> frustration with him. Any SUGGESTIONS?
>>>
>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogsand 
>>> howtocontroleit?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Julie:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Bogart does that thing with not gong forward sometimes too. Being 
>>>> a fairly new dog user I do find it frustrating at times. I do what you 
>>>> do which is simply take the leash  with my right hand and move it 
>>>> forward, like leading a horse. Thatr usually gets him going. The funny 
>>>> thing is that he has his preferred after work walks. Basically I have 
>>>> to take a cross town bus and then either walk or another bus to go 
>>>> north. We often take the cross town bus and then walk home on some nice 
>>>> residential streets in the rich part of town. However, yesterday I felt 
>>>> like taking the north south road just at my corner where I work. I 
>>>> noticed this last year that Bogart doesn't seem to like this route. He 
>>>> works much more slowly. I used to get frustrated but now I just try to 
>>>> encourage him and go with the flow. He eventually worked his way up to 
>>>> average bogart speed and got in the groove.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I find it challenging sometimes when he doesn't react as 
>>>> quickly as I would like but I've had to learn that sometimes we have to 
>>>> miss a light cycle since it is better to be safe than sorry.
>>>>
>>>> However, I too find those comments from the public about "is he in 
>>>> training?" or the corner is this way ... This happened yesterday. I'm 
>>>> not stupid. I know that my silly dog has gone onto the grass rather 
>>>> than to the curb. When the woman said the corner is this way Bogart was 
>>>> more than happy to turn and follow the nice woman (he really likes 
>>>> women) which is great except we weren't going that way. Sometimes 
>>>> Bogart thinks he is being helpful by going onto the grass to the big 
>>>> light post in case there happens to be a cross walk push button there. 
>>>> I'm working on that one still. :)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I liked the comment that I'm the one being trained. that's the 
>>>> truth.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Julie J <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011 5:39 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogs and 
>>>> howtocontroleit?
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>
>>>>> You know just yesterday I was leaving a coffee shop with friends
>>>>> and Monty refused to go forward.  He does this sometimes
>>>>> and it aggravates me to no end.  Usually it is because
>>>>> there is something that he feels requires caution about half a
>>>>> block ahead.   All I need to do is take the leash in
>>>>> my right hand, gesture forward with it and give him a bit of
>>>>> encouragement. The entire event from stopping to going again
>>>>> occurs in about a second and a half.   Yesterday
>>>>> though, someone passing says, "oh, he's in training." That
>>>>> really aggravates me.  It's like he's supposed to be
>>>>> perfect every. single. second.  And honestly I don't
>>>>> consider stopping a mistake, it's just being overly cautious
>>>>>
>>>>> I walked to the end of the block with my friends.  Monty
>>>>> stopped at the curb.  I told him to turn left so we could
>>>>> line up with where we needed to cross.  One of the friends
>>>>> says, "he didn't turn."  Like that was a mistake. He isn't
>>>>> supposed to turn.  He does sometimes if it's a very
>>>>> familiar route, but I don't expect it.  Still it aggravates
>>>>> me that we are constantly judged and found lacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both very small things and not worth my energy.  I know,
>>>>> but I do think that sometimes it's good to vent.  It keeps
>>>>> me sane and it helps others know they are perfectly normal for
>>>>> getting irritated too. *smile*
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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