[nagdu] pace was Do you ever get angry with yourdogsand howtocontroleit?

Lisa Irving lirving1234 at cox.net
Sat Mar 5 07:19:38 UTC 2011 

Julie,

I like the random high value treats and the jogging a little too. I'll also 
try more physical affection too. The varying of routes seems to work when 
they're new. We have half a dozen ways to get home. Variation of familiar 
routes doesn't appear to be much of a motivator. Thanks!

Lisa and Bernie I
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pace was Do you ever get angry with yourdogsand 
howtocontroleit?


> Lisa,
>
> I've found that the best way to get moving faster is to vary the route. 
> If I do the same thing day after day, I'll notice that our pace gets 
> slower and slower, at least on the way there.
>
> I use treats too.  Just a random treat at the corner seems to perk him up 
> a bit.  I just use his regular kibble for treats because he is highly food 
> motivated and I have to be very careful of his diet.
>
> You might also try the happy voice along with just moving faster yourself.
>
> This is something pretty unconventional, but when Monty was younger I used 
> to stop and play with him every few blocks just to break up the routine. 
> He knows to jump up on cue and I sometimes use this when I know he needs 
> either stress relief or perking up.  He likes to jump up and when he gets 
> to, there is an immediate difference in his work.  But like I said this is 
> pretty unconventional, just thought I'd toss it out there as food for 
> thought.
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogsand 
> howtocontroleit?
>
>
>> I'm challenged in trying to modify my dog's pace. He does what I deem, 
>> lollygag. I end up doing stutter steps and, I feel less confident. I try 
>> to catch my self straining to see what I no longer see with accuracy. 
>> When Bernie  is doing a new route, his pace is perfect for me. A month 
>> ago, we cruised for a few miles on the board walk near a beach. So, I 
>> know he can walk at a quicker pace. This is one of my sources of 
>> frustration with him. Any SUGGESTIONS?
>>
>> Lisa and Bernie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogsand 
>> howtocontroleit?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Julie:
>>>
>>> Yes, Bogart does that thing with not gong forward sometimes too. Being a 
>>> fairly new dog user I do find it frustrating at times. I do what you do 
>>> which is simply take the leash  with my right hand and move it forward, 
>>> like leading a horse. Thatr usually gets him going. The funny thing is 
>>> that he has his preferred after work walks. Basically I have to take a 
>>> cross town bus and then either walk or another bus to go north. We often 
>>> take the cross town bus and then walk home on some nice residential 
>>> streets in the rich part of town. However, yesterday I felt like taking 
>>> the north south road just at my corner where I work. I noticed this last 
>>> year that Bogart doesn't seem to like this route. He works much more 
>>> slowly. I used to get frustrated but now I just try to encourage him and 
>>> go with the flow. He eventually worked his way up to average bogart 
>>> speed and got in the groove.
>>>
>>> I guess I find it challenging sometimes when he doesn't react as quickly 
>>> as I would like but I've had to learn that sometimes we have to miss a 
>>> light cycle since it is better to be safe than sorry.
>>>
>>> However, I too find those comments from the public about "is he in 
>>> training?" or the corner is this way ... This happened yesterday. I'm 
>>> not stupid. I know that my silly dog has gone onto the grass rather than 
>>> to the curb. When the woman said the corner is this way Bogart was more 
>>> than happy to turn and follow the nice woman (he really likes women) 
>>> which is great except we weren't going that way. Sometimes Bogart thinks 
>>> he is being helpful by going onto the grass to the big light post in 
>>> case there happens to be a cross walk push button there. I'm working on 
>>> that one still. :)
>>>
>>> Anyway, I liked the comment that I'm the one being trained. that's the 
>>> truth.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Julie J <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011 5:39 am
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with your dogs and 
>>> howtocontroleit?
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>> You know just yesterday I was leaving a coffee shop with friends
>>>> and Monty refused to go forward.  He does this sometimes
>>>> and it aggravates me to no end.  Usually it is because
>>>> there is something that he feels requires caution about half a
>>>> block ahead.   All I need to do is take the leash in
>>>> my right hand, gesture forward with it and give him a bit of
>>>> encouragement. The entire event from stopping to going again
>>>> occurs in about a second and a half.   Yesterday
>>>> though, someone passing says, "oh, he's in training." That
>>>> really aggravates me.  It's like he's supposed to be
>>>> perfect every. single. second.  And honestly I don't
>>>> consider stopping a mistake, it's just being overly cautious
>>>>
>>>> I walked to the end of the block with my friends.  Monty
>>>> stopped at the curb.  I told him to turn left so we could
>>>> line up with where we needed to cross.  One of the friends
>>>> says, "he didn't turn."  Like that was a mistake. He isn't
>>>> supposed to turn.  He does sometimes if it's a very
>>>> familiar route, but I don't expect it.  Still it aggravates
>>>> me that we are constantly judged and found lacking.
>>>>
>>>> Both very small things and not worth my energy.  I know,
>>>> but I do think that sometimes it's good to vent.  It keeps
>>>> me sane and it helps others know they are perfectly normal for
>>>> getting irritated too. *smile*
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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