[nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals ordinance

Lisa Irving lirving1234 at cox.net
Thu Mar 10 03:46:53 UTC 2011 

Lyn, my trusted friend, we've had conversations about classifying an entire 
sect of individuals in a negative light. Let's not look to blame. Instead, 
let's look to refrain, or to make constructive changes.  Thanks.

Lisa and Bernie the
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals ordinance


>I agree, Marion.
>
> Wouldn't this supposedly proposed law also be in violation of ADA?  As to 
> people stirring up anti Islamic fear and hate - sounds like a Tea Party 
> tactic to me.  Hate groups will use anything to stir the pot! Even 
> disabled folks and our dogs!!!  Let's hope you're right.  I have a friend 
> in Minneapolis and she would be quite mad if there was really a law like 
> this one.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals 
> ordinance
>
>
>> Lisa,
>>    I am still trying to confirm the introduction of the measure that was 
>> mentioned on this list a week or so ago with the NFB of Minnesota. I am 
>> beginning to believe it was an urban legend designed to create anti 
>> Islamic outrage. It troubles my soul to think that there are those with 
>> such hatred in their hearts as to perpetrate such a thing! And they most 
>> likely think they are doing God's will! So sad!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals 
>> ordinance
>>
>>
>>> Marion, I'm uninformed about the anti constitutional conduct taking 
>>> place in MN. This brings me to overall California Disability Law vrs the 
>>> ADA. In Cali., and perhaps other states, which ever disability law is 
>>> the strongest over rides the other law.
>>>
>>> I don't know stanza and verse of either law. What I am aware of from a 
>>> hand full of personal encounters, via the  Southern California U. S. 
>>> District Federal Courts, is that Cali. Disability Law is more detailed 
>>> and has greater protections about businesses providing equal access to 
>>> their "goods and services"
>>>
>>> What's the likelihood MN has, very negatively, designed legislation that 
>>> supersedes federal ADA legislation. I am stunned and  not totally 
>>> surprised that religion and allergies has been tossed into the 
>>> complicated mix of things. I hope the NFB gets behind this regressive 
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals 
>>> ordinance
>>>
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>>    Such a thing is less of a concern to me than what is rumored to be 
>>>> happening in Minnesota. The Principle of Supremacy allows lower 
>>>> jurisdictions to make laws that are less restrictive but Minnesota, if 
>>>> the rumor is true and I am working to find out if it is, is trying to 
>>>> make a law that is more restrictive by allowing public accommodations 
>>>> to use religion, fear, and allergies as reasons to deny access. This is 
>>>> a clear violation of the ADA and, thus, a violation of the U.S. 
>>>> Constitution. Article V, Clause 2 states
>>>>
>>>> This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be 
>>>> made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be 
>>>> made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme 
>>>> Law of the land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, 
>>>> any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary 
>>>> notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals 
>>>> ordinance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just don't know what to say.  It's sad and sort of funny in a way 
>>>>>that you'd only understand if your familiar with small town local 
>>>>>politics. They don't seem to understand disability law or really much 
>>>>>about disabilities at all.  Once again it's only the green that matters 
>>>>>in the end.  Sad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 5:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] FW: Article: Council approves service animals 
>>>>> ordinance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hesperia Star (Hesperia, CA)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> March 3, 2011
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Council approves service animals ordinance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Councilman Blewett vows to repeal if ordinance leads to lawsuits 
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> local businesses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beau Yarbrough <mailto:beau at hesperiastar.com> , Staff Writer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The American with Disabilities Act will become more restrictive in 
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> definition of service animals this month, but the changes won't apply 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Hesperia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At their meeting Tuesday night, the Hesperia City Council voted to 
>>>>>> allow any
>>>>>> sort of service animal to be used by the disabled in Hesperia public
>>>>>> buildings and businesses, so long as they're accompanied by a 
>>>>>> doctor's note
>>>>>> certifying their status as service animals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 15, new federal guidelines will tighten the definition of 
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> animals in the ADA to just dogs. The act was signed into law by 
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> George H. W. Bush in July 1990 and never previously defined what 
>>>>>> constituted
>>>>>> a service animal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The city ordinance was drafted in response to a request from local 
>>>>>> resident
>>>>>> Danni Moore, who uses two rats riding on her shoulders to help 
>>>>>> control her
>>>>>> seizures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "All I ask is that the city council allows me to continue to come to 
>>>>>> pay my
>>>>>> bills [at city hall] and volunteer at the library," Moore told the 
>>>>>> council
>>>>>> on Tuesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disabled residents "have a right to be a person, to go to a store, to 
>>>>>> go to
>>>>>> a restaurant," argued resident Kim Jones. "There are some things that
>>>>>> [service] dogs can just not do."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not everyone agreed with Jones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The needs of the many have to outweigh the needs of the few," said
>>>>>> Councilman Bill Holland. "It unnecessarily places Hesperia's 
>>>>>> businesses,
>>>>>> which quite frankly pay our way, in harm's way."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If I end up in a lawsuit over this, I'll move my business out of the 
>>>>>> city,
>>>>>> I'll be real honest with you," said Century 21 owner Don Jensen, the 
>>>>>> brother
>>>>>> of planning commissioner Bill Jensen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ADA "hasn't affected Hesperia's businesses for the past 20, 50 
>>>>>> years,"
>>>>>> said Councilman Thurston "Smitty" Smith, "And this doesn't change 
>>>>>> anything."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I've never seen a service animal other than a dog in a restaurant 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> than one time in Mexico," said Mayor Pro Tem Russ Blewett. "We have 
>>>>>> 18
>>>>>> percent of the people in this community unemployed, and we're talking 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> service animals."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ordinance passes 4-d, with Holland dissenting. Although he voted 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> favor of the measure, Blewett said he'd vote to repeal it if any 
>>>>>> business is
>>>>>> sued under the city ordinance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next regular meeting of the Hesperia City Council will take place 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> March 15 at 6:30 p.m. at Hesperia City Hall, 9700 Seventh Avenue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source: 
>>>>>> http://www.hesperiastar.com/news/service-3999-animals-council.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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