[nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service AnimalsReceives House Endorsement

Thu Mar 10 23:23:45 UTC 2011

Lisa, good question.
My role first and foremost is my safety then my dogs.  Depending on the
nature of an assault by another dog, the first thing I would do is not try
to break up the fight and let the dog go.  Of course, this creates
opportunity to possibly take a picture as this what I am guessing you are
hinting at.  However, My next concern and role is not to lose track of my
dog, and after an incident or even for that matter, during an incident, my
focus would be on what is happening, and I highly doubt I would event hink
about taking a picture, or what resembles attempting to take a picture of a
tangled mess of dogs.  I have not been in this situation, nor do I ever hope
I am nor do I ever wish this upon anyone else, and would like to hear what
others think about their roles when harm is being caused to one's dog.  Now,
just to clarify, this is eluding to that of an attack by another dog on a
working dog, not that of a person as this brings in a whole different level
of reactions.  Your post states, someone, but the prior posts refer to that
of an attacking dog...what then, is your role and how does this play out
given the slight change as I am not clear of if it is a dog or someone
meaning human.

Thanks, 
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Lisa Irving
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:50 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service AnimalsReceives
House Endorsement

Steve, how do you see your self in a situation where some one is causing 
harm to your dog? If you play this out in your mind, how do things go-- how 
do they work out and what is your role?

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service AnimalsReceives 
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> Lynn, help me understand this...
> If your dog is under attack, who is really going to think about shooting a
> snapshot and keying on a sound of where an owner might be?  Think about 
> how
> frantic one would be...taking a picture is the last thing I would even 
> think
> of, and isn't the average person going to be focusing on their dog and if
> they were or were not hurt?  I find this just a little off.
> Just my opinion, and if you can explain as to how this is really effective
> that would be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lyn Gwizdak
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:59 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service Animals 
> Receives
> House Endorsement
>
> Lisa,
> Passle's advice is great aboout the picture taking.  Aim the camera at the
> sound. I do this with my video camera or still camera if I can't quite see
> what I'm taking and it works.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Passle Helminski" <passle at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service Animals 
> Receives
> House Endorsement
>
>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> I just hope that I am getting them in my shot.  Focus on the sound and 
>> try
>
>> to take a photo.
>>
>> Passle
>>
>>
>>>Passle, thanks for the idea. My next question is how do you know you're
>>>taking a photo of the offending person. I have photo capability on my not
>>>sophisticated cell phone. However,even though I can take a photo, I can't
>>>see what I'm aiming at. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Lisa and Bernie
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski"
>>><passle at roadrunner.com>
>>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:06 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] PA Evans'Bill to Help Protect Service Animals
>>>Receives House Endorsement
>>>
>>>>Hello Lisa,
>>>>
>>>>My guide was attacked 6 times. I carry  a cell phone that I can try to
>>>>take a photo of the attacking dog.
>>>>
>>>>Passle
>>>>
>>>>>Please tell me how you deal with identifying the offending dog owner.
>>>>>During the past 15 or so years I've had my  guide dog (first one)
>>>>>attacked twice. No one stepped forward to give a description to the
>>>>>police. They told me there was nothing they could do without a
>>>>>description of the offending dog owner.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lisa and Bernie
>>>>
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