[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 25

Mon May 23 02:10:34 UTC 2011

Wow, I understand your loss, I really believe that our guides are angels from God and in fact when my last retired passed away this summer I even that Dog is God spelled backwards.  I am a Christian, and I do believe as some people do not that animals go to heaven.  At least I hope they do.  I know your guy knew he was loved.  I pray healing for you all through this time and when the time is right that you will train with the right dog for you.  Where do you attend training?  Just curious.  Praying for you now. 

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> 1. Re: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24 (holly mcknight)
> 2. Re: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23 (holly mcknight)
> 3. Re: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23 (holly mcknight)
> 4. RE Trying to find out more info about the travel angent, but
> having a problem. (holly mcknight)
> 5. Please ignore my other message. (holly mcknight)
> 6. Re: RE Trying to find out more info about the travel angent,
> but having a problem. (cheryl echevarria)
> 7. Re: RE Trying to find out more info about the travel angent,
> but having a problem. (cheryl echevarria)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:49:41 -0500
> From: holly mcknight <hollyandpolly at hotmail.com>
> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24
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> Wow! I am on my third guide and I know how hard it is when they leave us after being retired, but I can't immagine what you are going through. I am praying at this moment! Where did your husband train with his guide ? I am a three time GDB grad. Let us know on this list if there is anything you need. Holly McKnight and Pollyann
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Re: Rudy (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 2. Re: Rudy (Brittney N. Mejico)
> > 3. Guide Dog User Discrimination Update (William Burley, III)
> > 4. Re: Guide Dog User Discrimination Update (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 5. Re: Rudy (Mardi Hadfield)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:11:59 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <4DD7D63F.8070702 at ComCast.net>
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> > On 20-May-11 20:10, The Pawpower Pack wrote:
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > > taste good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > Bob and Rox,
> > 
> > I know I don't know you guys well, but i just wanted you to know that I 
> > will be praying for you. I know how much dogs can become part of the 
> > family. I am truly sorry for you loss.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:00:58 -0700
> > From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <16EF70BAFED14479B145BCD06DF58757 at OwnerPC>
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> > 
> > Rox
> > Rudy sounds like an amazing dog. That's awful he had to leave you.
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:48:29 -0500
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination Update
> > Message-ID: <4dd85d4e.04c1ec0a.37cc.2988 at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Hello again all!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I wanted to give you an update. I found out who the guy is that experienced
> > the problem at the store. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > He recently moved to a new area and walked into a store to see how far he
> > was from another store. They began yelling at him to leave the store and
> > wouldn't let him know the information.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At this point, it seems that he isn't aware of what store he was in. He
> > left the store when they asked him to. He says he didn't have his cell
> > phone to call the police. I think he's planning on doing the walk again
> > with someone sighted to see what store it was he went into.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William Burley
> > 
> > Paralegal Coordinator
> > 
> > Burley-Wilson & Associates, L.L.C.
> > 
> > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > 
> > Houston, Texas 77045
> > 
> > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > 
> > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > 
> > E-Mail: wburley at burley-wilson.com 
> > 
> > Web: www.burley-wilson.com <http://www.burley-wilson.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Virtual Paralegal Support for the Successful Attorney."
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:01:51 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination Update
> > Message-ID: <2F87F45FA3694B259843284A73C9A939 at marion27df4b2a>
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> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > William,
> > we have some very competent people in Texas who can help this situation. 
> > Please urge this person to get in touch with me so we can work this out 
> > together.
> > 
> > Marion
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:48 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination Update
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello again all!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to give you an update. I found out who the guy is that 
> > > experienced
> > > the problem at the store.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He recently moved to a new area and walked into a store to see how far he
> > > was from another store. They began yelling at him to leave the store and
> > > wouldn't let him know the information.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At this point, it seems that he isn't aware of what store he was in. He
> > > left the store when they asked him to. He says he didn't have his cell
> > > phone to call the police. I think he's planning on doing the walk again
> > > with someone sighted to see what store it was he went into.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Burley
> > >
> > > Paralegal Coordinator
> > >
> > > Burley-Wilson & Associates, L.L.C.
> > >
> > > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > >
> > > Houston, Texas 77045
> > >
> > > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > >
> > > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > >
> > > E-Mail: wburley at burley-wilson.com
> > >
> > > Web: www.burley-wilson.com <http://www.burley-wilson.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Virtual Paralegal Support for the Successful Attorney."
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:24:30 -0700
> > From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTi=VFmnOUe4LFha4j9jX0EPMwN1Zuw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > Bob and Rox, I am so sorry to hear of your loss.Years ago, I lost my Lily
> > suddenly and unexpectedly when she was 8 years, so I know the pain and the
> > loss that you feel. My prayers are with you at this most difficult time.Rudy
> > will be waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge until you are reunited again.
> > Love and Prayers, Mardi andShama and Nala,retired.
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
> > http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
> > 
> > 
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> > End of nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24
> > *************************************
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 15:50:51 -0500
> From: holly mcknight <hollyandpolly at hotmail.com>
> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23
> Message-ID: <BAY152-w42A3E80BB4FCD4F6274C72BC730 at phx.gbl>
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> 
> I have a shunt along with three fusions in my neck, my retired guide accompanied me into the hospital to have my surgeries, and spent time with my family during my recovery. The only places that a working guide is actually not allowed is ICU, but several years ago I had gone to see someone in a major hospital in Dallas and I had a nurse get a little nasty with me. She threatened to call security and I told her to go ahead and when the officers who worked for the hospital responded that told her what I had, and that was that this was a Guide Dog and that she could go anywhere that I was going. I think those nurses got more training. As for actually taking your dog somewhere, mine goes with me to the dentist, but if I am having films taken she simply waits in a stay, just outside the room. Good luck. 
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:00:09 -0500
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (GARY STEEVES)
> > 2. Re: Hiking (GARY STEEVES)
> > 3. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 4. Guide Dog User Discrimination (William Burley, III)
> > 5. Rudy (The Pawpower Pack)
> > 6. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 7. Re: Rudy (Margo and Arrow)
> > 8. Re: Rudy (d m gina)
> > 9. Re: Guide Dog User Discrimination (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 10. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Mike)
> > 11. Re: Rudy (Cindy Ray)
> > 12. Re: Hiking (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> > 13. Re: Rudy (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> > 14. Re: Rudy (Pawpower Creations)
> > 15. Re: Rudy (John Doering)
> > 16. Re: Rudy (Sheila Leigland)
> > 17. Re: Rudy (d m gina)
> > 18. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Sheila Leigland)
> > 19. Re: Rudy (Steven Johnson)
> > 20. Re: Rudy (Sharonda Greenlaw)
> > 21. Re: Rudy (Sherri)
> > 22. Re: Rudy (Sherri)
> > 23. Re: Guide Dog User Discrimination (cheryl echevarria)
> > 24. Re: Rudy (Julie J)
> > 25. Re: Rudy (Marsha Drenth)
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:54:42 -0700
> > From: GARY STEEVES <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <fb6c32633c85c.4dd680b2 at shaw.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Hi Dawn:
> > 
> > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > 
> > > Good morning All,
> > > 
> > > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical 
> > > facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says 
> > > that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If 
> > > he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends 
> > > goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification 
> > > would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Thanks and have a great day!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:04:34 -0700
> > From: GARY STEEVES <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <fb9cb04f3c226.4dd68302 at shaw.ca>
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> > 
> > Hi Tracy:
> > 
> > Living in Vancouver Canada is a lucky place too. I used to date a girl with a car and we did all kinds of hikes. Once I started dating my current girlfriend (now of 7 years) who doesn't drive by choice, I decided to see where city transit would get us. To my surprise, we are able to get to almost all the hikes I used to get to by car. Yes, it takes a bit longer but who wants to have to drive after hiking 13 km in the foot hills. Last year Susan had hurt her leg so Bogart only had one stinf of about 5 days of hiking in the mountains. He seemed to do really well, no cut feet. Did worry about him falling off drop offs but after a couple of close calls (that is why they have four paws) he seemed to figure it out better. He is great off leash wehn we hike running a bit ahead and then coming back to check in with Susan and then further back to see me. I use 2 trekking poles when not using Bogart. We are able to tackle most things. I'm obviously slower with my poles than a sighted person but Susan says she enjoys hiking with me because I make her look around, partly to tell me what I'm going to encounter and partly because she has time to look around rather than just focussing on the trail to keep up to her friends.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:44 am
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are 
> > > they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting 
> > > trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > > 
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk 
> > > in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a 
> > > little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > > 
> > > > How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my 
> > > guide dog. I
> > > > live
> > > > in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week 
> > > out in the
> > > > forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried 
> > > using the booties
> > > > because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but 
> > > my dog kicks
> > > > them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the 
> > > trouble. She
> > > > did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but 
> > > never again
> > > > since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but 
> > > actually I
> > > > probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. 
> > > Trying to
> > > > follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very 
> > > awkward. I
> > > > think
> > > > using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be 
> > > better. I
> > > > rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out 
> > > with other
> > > > people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers 
> > > and I know all
> > > > the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I 
> > > wear a small
> > > > backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it 
> > > for her..
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > > Users"> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Jeff
> > > >> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was 
> > > wondering>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > > >> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jeffrey Young
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > > >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >>
> > > >> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite 
> > > often. I'm
> > > >> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do 
> > > people take
> > > >> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I 
> > > don't know how
> > > >> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious 
> > > hiking in
> > > >> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and 
> > > held on to a
> > > >> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties 
> > > because of
> > > >> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > > >> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff and Hansel
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:25:02 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <4DD6EA3E.4060703 at ComCast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > 
> > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > > Hi Dawn:
> > >
> > > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >
> > > 
> > >> Good morning All,
> > >>
> > >> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >> would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> > >>
> > >> 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/dawn0713%40comcast.net
> > >
> > > 
> > .
> > Thanks Gary.
> > 
> > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be 
> > abgle to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:49:20 -0500
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <4dd6efe1.0495970a.4ec9.24ad at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain that
> > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process that
> > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the rights
> > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William Burley
> > 
> > Paralegal Coordinator
> > 
> > Burley-Wilson & Associates, L.L.C.
> > 
> > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > 
> > Houston, Texas 77045
> > 
> > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > 
> > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > 
> > E-Mail: wburley at burley-wilson.com 
> > 
> > Web: www.burley-wilson.com <http://www.burley-wilson.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Virtual Paralegal Support for the Successful Attorney."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Legal Confidentiality Notice
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The information in this e-mail and and in any attachment may contain
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> > in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail or by phone at (713)
> > 364-9703. After having notified the sender, please delete the message
> > from your system. Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:10:54 -0500
> > From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <FACA71F3-7768-489E-B3EF-74917D646863 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:20:27 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <C25CCB083E0B4D3AA1EE0E71B55A7099 at marion27df4b2a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Brandy,
> > NAGDU has been battling this precise issue for a couple of years. I 
> > would like to talk to you about this at your convenience. Please give me a 
> > call. My contact information is below my signature.
> > 
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala, President
> > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 813-626-2789
> > President at NAGDU.ORG
> > HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brandy Dawn Jenkins" <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > > Good morning All,
> > >
> > > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or one 
> > > of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > > clarification would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks and have a great day!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > > nagdu:
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:26:57 -0400
> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <B8D778DE5A2647BA95FC42B283F6AD9D at meandmyarrow>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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> > > nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:34:12 -0400
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <20110521003412.6822.70890 at ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> > 
> > Oh my gosh,
> > Then to think that the dog was trying to share he needed to go out.
> > What a special guide.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look
> > >> at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy
> > >> came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found
> > >> him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > 
> > 
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
> > >> good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
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> > >> nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:41:17 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <A480D2497BA74EB38C0455209175EC66 at marion27df4b2a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > William,
> > Would you please have this person give me a call during the work week. I 
> > am certain we can convince the department store to do the right thing!
> > 
> > fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala, President
> > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 813-626-2789
> > President at NAGDU.ORG
> > HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain 
> > > that
> > > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process 
> > > that
> > > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the 
> > > rights
> > > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Burley
> > >
> > > Paralegal Coordinator
> > >
> > > Burley-Wilson & Associates, L.L.C.
> > >
> > > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > >
> > > Houston, Texas 77045
> > >
> > > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > >
> > > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > >
> > > E-Mail: wburley at burley-wilson.com
> > >
> > > Web: www.burley-wilson.com <http://www.burley-wilson.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Virtual Paralegal Support for the Successful Attorney."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Legal Confidentiality Notice
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The information in this e-mail and and in any attachment may contain
> > > information which is legally privileged. It is intended only for the
> > > attention and use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended
> > > recipient, you are not authorized to retain, disclose, copy or distribute
> > > the message and/or any of its attachments. If you've received this e-mail
> > > in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail or by phone at (713)
> > > 364-9703. After having notified the sender, please delete the message
> > > from your system. Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:57:30 -0700
> > From: "Mike" <underthetoaster at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <9B2635C4FBC04725A8001C7E52D501B4 at HatMachine>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Hi
> > I have experienced this one. When my great-grandmother was in some care 
> > facility at the very end of her life they said I couldn't use my dog in 
> > there. I didn't contest it at all since I had people to guide me and put him 
> > in the car but wondered about it, since, don't they bring therapy dogs etc. 
> > into those places? Also my granny liked the dog and would have liked seeing 
> > him.
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brandy Dawn Jenkins" <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > >> Hi Dawn:
> > >>
> > >> I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical 
> > >> centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood 
> > >> tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care 
> > >> centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will 
> > >> lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly 
> > >> concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious 
> > >> at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his 
> > >> teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Good luck
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > >> Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > >> Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Good morning All,
> > >>>
> > >>> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >>> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >>> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >>> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >>> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >>> would be appreciated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >>> Sincerely,
> > >>> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>> info for nagdu:
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/rainshadowmusic%40shaw.ca
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > >> nagdu:
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/dawn0713%40comcast.net
> > >>
> > >>
> > > .
> > > Thanks Gary.
> > >
> > > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be abgle 
> > > to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > > nagdu:
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/underthetoaster%40gmail.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:31:14 -0500
> > From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <772A5C96-A8FE-493B-9D67-567E2D032863 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Oh, Rox, I am so sorry for Bob. What a huge shock that had to be. Know you are in my thoughts and prayers.
> > 
> > Cindy Lou
> > ?
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:51:31 -0700
> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <460810D7C30D46C1B5FE68BF5350E3D0 at tamidesktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Gary,
> > 
> > I love the way Mitzi goes bounding ahead then comes bounding back to check
> > in. /smile/ When she's off leash, she will scope out what's ahead, then
> > report back if there's anything I need to worry about. I need to acquire a
> > couple of trekking poles this year... And a bus pass to get to the trails!
> > I keep trying to talk my roommates into going hiking, but they're big
> > woosies, and my former hiking buddy is off to law scholl so... Will have to
> > see what I can do!
> > 
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of GARY STEEVES
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:05 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > 
> > Hi Tracy:
> > 
> > Living in Vancouver Canada is a lucky place too. I used to date a girl with
> > a car and we did all kinds of hikes. Once I started dating my current
> > girlfriend (now of 7 years) who doesn't drive by choice, I decided to see
> > where city transit would get us. To my surprise, we are able to get to
> > almost all the hikes I used to get to by car. Yes, it takes a bit longer but
> > who wants to have to drive after hiking 13 km in the foot hills. Last year
> > Susan had hurt her leg so Bogart only had one stinf of about 5 days of
> > hiking in the mountains. He seemed to do really well, no cut feet. Did worry
> > about him falling off drop offs but after a couple of close calls (that is
> > why they have four paws) he seemed to figure it out better. He is great off
> > leash wehn we hike running a bit ahead and then coming back to check in with
> > Susan and then further back to see me. I use 2 trekking poles when not using
> > Bogart. We are able to tackle most things. I'm obviously slower with my
> > poles than a sighted person but Susan says she enjoys hiking with me because
> > I make her look around, partly to tell me what I'm going to encounter and
> > partly because she has time to look around rather than just focussing on the
> > trail to keep up to her friends.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:44 am
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are 
> > > they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting 
> > > trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > > 
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk 
> > > in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a 
> > > little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > > 
> > > > How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my 
> > > guide dog. I
> > > > live
> > > > in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week 
> > > out in the
> > > > forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried 
> > > using the booties
> > > > because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but 
> > > my dog kicks
> > > > them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the 
> > > trouble. She
> > > > did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but 
> > > never again
> > > > since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but 
> > > actually I
> > > > probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. 
> > > Trying to
> > > > follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very 
> > > awkward. I
> > > > think
> > > > using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be 
> > > better. I
> > > > rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out 
> > > with other
> > > > people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers 
> > > and I know all
> > > > the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I 
> > > wear a small
> > > > backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it 
> > > for her..
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > > Users"> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Jeff
> > > >> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was 
> > > wondering>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > > >> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jeffrey Young
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > > >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >>
> > > >> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite 
> > > often. I'm
> > > >> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do 
> > > people take
> > > >> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I 
> > > don't know how
> > > >> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious 
> > > hiking in
> > > >> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and 
> > > held on to a
> > > >> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties 
> > > because of
> > > >> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > > >> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff and Hansel
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:56:14 -0700
> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <BB0B5B376597476EA82A63E62BBDED3F at tamidesktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I cannot imagine your loss. Hugs to all of
> > you!
> > 
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:33:47 -0500
> > From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <5AF62D163D4D480690B7CE45050212D2 at BobBlacknerPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone for your kind words and comforting thoughts. I am
> > feeling the loss very Deeply right now. Rudy was an incredible dog. The
> > bond I developed with him was one of the strongest I have ever had with any
> > of my dogs. He was so alive, so full of life and curiosity, so anxious to
> > see what was up a head, or just around the next corner. Recently I have had
> > some extended hospital stays, and Rudy was there with me the whole time. He
> > was the anchor that kept me from losing my sanity. He stayed patiently by
> > my bedside, and he always seemed to know when the weight of his furry head
> > and cold nose was needed. He never wined or complained, and never got
> > restless. When I was able I took him out several times a day, and when I
> > was not he went calmly with whoever was there to take him. Today I lost
> > more than a dog, more than a friend, I lost a piece of my heart. 
> > I will always remember him bouncing and wiggling when his harness came out,
> > so much that it was difficult to put it on. I remember wanting to be stern
> > with him, and ending up laughing. That was another thing he was good at,
> > making me laugh. He was a big goofy, sweet wonderful guy. He was my Rudy
> > dude. He will live in my heart forever. 
> > 
> > Woofs and wags from the pawpower pack,
> > Queen Vristol, Mill'E to the max, Rudy the dude, and baby girl Laveau.
> > 
> > Pawpower Creations,
> > Bob Blackner/Rox'e Homstad,
> > 504-312-2609
> > pawpower at cox.net
> > www.pawpowercreations.com
> > 
> > Custom made guide dog equipment, 
> > products designed with you and your canine in mind.
> > 
> > I asked for strength that I might rear her perfectly;
> > I was given weakness that I might feed her more treats. 
> > 
> > I asked for good health that I might rest easy;
> > I was given a "special needs" dog that I might know nurturing. 
> > 
> > I asked for an obedient dog that I might feel proud;
> > I was given stubbornness that I might feel humble. 
> > 
> > I asked for compliance that I might feel masterful;
> > I was given a clown that I might laugh. 
> > 
> > I asked for a companion that I might not feel lonely;
> > I was given a best friend that I would feel loved. 
> > 
> > I got nothing I asked for,
> > But everything that I needed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Author unknown
> > 
> > 
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> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:57:23 -0500
> > From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <F53517CA30444026981C2B1676E59F53 at john48552bad62>
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> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > How terrible.
> > I grieve with thee.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > JD
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:14:31 -0600
> > From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <auto-000279962269 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Oh that is so hard. Our thoughts are with you. Sheila and Harold 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:34 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > Oh my gosh,
> > Then to think that the dog was trying to share he needed to go out.
> > What a special guide.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look
> > >> at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy
> > >> came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found
> > >> him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > 
> > 
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
> > >> good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:12:39 -0400
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID:
> > <20110521031239.5508.40829 at domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> > 
> > Now what you will do for your husband my dear is to help him with another dog.
> > You do the training smile.
> > You are good at what you do, and I believe in you.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I cannot imagine your loss. Hugs to all of
> > > you!
> > 
> > > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > > taste good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:14:30 -0600
> > From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <auto-000279962276 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > I have only had questions once and I told them he was there and they didn't have a choice it was for a needle biopsy and it was done where ultrasound is done and he my dog had been there before so I know what his reactions were.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:25 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > > Hi Dawn:
> > >
> > > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >
> > > 
> > >> Good morning All,
> > >>
> > >> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >> would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> 
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> > > 
> > .
> > Thanks Gary.
> > 
> > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be 
> > abgle to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:02:06 -0500
> > From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <000d01cc176b$d9aec1b0$8d0c4510$@net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as the
> > loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > 
> > Steve 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > et
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:45:57 -0700
> > From: Sharonda Greenlaw <sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTinDD-6bZeLT9ZEuFj6NFW7ZWDekQw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > Rox,
> > I just read this! My heart goes out to you and Bob and the furries.
> > You all are in my prayers.
> > 
> > Sharonda
> > 
> > On 5/20/11, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
> > > Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as the
> > > loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > >
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > > taste good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
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> > > et
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Sharonda Greenlaw
> > President (Phoenix Chapter)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > -------------
> > Come, read and take a journey with me at
> > www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
> > or find me here:
> > http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
> > Skype: sharonda2004
> > Twitter: shari_rocks
> > Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:07:33 -0400
> > From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <90E95B95B03543E8AB7DAB1865A1E25E at DCB3VNJ1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Rox, so sorry about your husband's loss! So sad for all of you! Our dogs are 
> > so wonderful! My condolences.
> > 
> > Sherri
> > 
> > 
> > Have you visited my personal page at
> > http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
> > If so, Thank you for changing what it means to be blind.
> > If not, please go there now!
> > Thank you.
> > flmom2006 at gmail.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > Rox,
> > > I just read this! My heart goes out to you and Bob and the furries.
> > > You all are in my prayers.
> > >
> > > Sharonda
> > >
> > > On 5/20/11, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
> > >> Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as 
> > >> the
> > >> loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of The Pawpower Pack
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > >> Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > >>
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > >> look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > >> when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > >> yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > >>
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > >> taste good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> et
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Sharonda Greenlaw
> > > President (Phoenix Chapter)
> > > National Federation of the Blind
> > > -------------
> > > Come, read and take a journey with me at
> > > www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
> > > or find me here:
> > > http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
> > > Skype: sharonda2004
> > > Twitter: shari_rocks
> > > Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:10:51 -0400
> > From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <749F4B05C27241E49E409D5F284049F9 at DCB3VNJ1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > What a beautiful tribute to Rudy! He sounds like a very terrific dog! So 
> > sorry for your loss!
> > 
> > Sherri
> > Have you visited my personal page at
> > http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
> > If so, Thank you for changing what it means to be blind.
> > If not, please go there now!
> > Thank you.
> > flmom2006 at gmail.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks to everyone for your kind words and comforting thoughts. I am
> > > feeling the loss very Deeply right now. Rudy was an incredible dog. The
> > > bond I developed with him was one of the strongest I have ever had with 
> > > any
> > > of my dogs. He was so alive, so full of life and curiosity, so anxious to
> > > see what was up a head, or just around the next corner. Recently I have 
> > > had
> > > some extended hospital stays, and Rudy was there with me the whole time. 
> > > He
> > > was the anchor that kept me from losing my sanity. He stayed patiently by
> > > my bedside, and he always seemed to know when the weight of his furry head
> > > and cold nose was needed. He never wined or complained, and never got
> > > restless. When I was able I took him out several times a day, and when I
> > > was not he went calmly with whoever was there to take him. Today I lost
> > > more than a dog, more than a friend, I lost a piece of my heart.
> > > I will always remember him bouncing and wiggling when his harness came 
> > > out,
> > > so much that it was difficult to put it on. I remember wanting to be 
> > > stern
> > > with him, and ending up laughing. That was another thing he was good at,
> > > making me laugh. He was a big goofy, sweet wonderful guy. He was my Rudy
> > > dude. He will live in my heart forever.
> > >
> > > Woofs and wags from the pawpower pack,
> > > Queen Vristol, Mill'E to the max, Rudy the dude, and baby girl Laveau.
> > >
> > > Pawpower Creations,
> > > Bob Blackner/Rox'e Homstad,
> > > 504-312-2609
> > > pawpower at cox.net
> > > www.pawpowercreations.com
> > >
> > > Custom made guide dog equipment,
> > > products designed with you and your canine in mind.
> > >
> > > I asked for strength that I might rear her perfectly;
> > > I was given weakness that I might feed her more treats.
> > >
> > > I asked for good health that I might rest easy;
> > > I was given a "special needs" dog that I might know nurturing.
> > >
> > > I asked for an obedient dog that I might feel proud;
> > > I was given stubbornness that I might feel humble.
> > >
> > > I asked for compliance that I might feel masterful;
> > > I was given a clown that I might laugh.
> > >
> > > I asked for a companion that I might not feel lonely;
> > > I was given a best friend that I would feel loved.
> > >
> > > I got nothing I asked for,
> > > But everything that I needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Author unknown
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 06:09:59 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds214D0E9FA2F4A8412BE88DA1700 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > William I would have first stayed calm, ask to speak to the manager of the store, point out especially in Texas since NAGDU if I remember correctly they have a large presence as well as the NFB, since we are in Texas many times for our Conventions.
> > 
> > Again stay calm, explain that the dog is a guide dog, if it is in a mall, go to the Mall Management office, remember the department stores in malls, strip malls, etc pay rent to the Mall Management Companies. If all else fails, then in my case here in NY, but I am sure you can do that there in TX, I call the police, I make a formal complaint against the company. I then call the local newspaper and local tv station and inform them that this has happened. If it is a good reporter you are talking to they will ask for a statement for the department store representative and they will give there reply
> > 
> > If it is a major department store, TARGET, MACY, KOHLS, ETC, even small stores have a main corporate office, if you need to go online to find out the number customer service, or ask to speak to management of the department stores corporate offices, you will find this online. Let them know you were denied access with your guide dog. Tell them date, time, if you can find out the name of the employee who did this, etc. It will help.
> > 
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: William Burley, III<mailto:william.burley3 at gmail.com> 
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain that
> > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process that
> > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the rights
> > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William Burley
> > 
> > Paralegal Coordinator
> > 
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> > 
> > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > 
> > Houston, Texas 77045
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 07:56:18 -0500
> > From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <002b01cc17b6$7a5f89b0$0201a8c0 at your07cc84feb2>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Bob and Rox,
> > 
> > I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
> > 
> > Julie
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:43:55 -0400
> > From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <FC16BCB8B1364007A9DA2F216EA6E551 at Cptr233>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Rox and hubby,
> > 
> > I am so very very sorry to hear of this news. Please know that my thoughts,
> > prayers and love are with you and hubby during this difficult time. 
> > 
> > Wish I could reach through the computer to give you both a hug! So here is
> > virtual hugs *hugs*
> > 
> > Marsha 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:18:07 -0500
> From: holly mcknight <hollyandpolly at hotmail.com>
> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23
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> 
> Hello, I am not actually sure what NAGDU does, but as another Texan with a guide, I carry an ID card, and a copy of the Texas law in my billfold. If a person is being denied access, they may call 911 and tell the people that they have a dog guide who has been denied access and that they would likie some help. Remember that if a dog is unclean or not behaving well, business DO have the right to refuse services. Fear, cultural differences etc do not apply. ADA very clearly states taht working guides are allowed in "Places of public accomidation." Good luck. 
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 23
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:00:09 -0500
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> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (GARY STEEVES)
> > 2. Re: Hiking (GARY STEEVES)
> > 3. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 4. Guide Dog User Discrimination (William Burley, III)
> > 5. Rudy (The Pawpower Pack)
> > 6. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 7. Re: Rudy (Margo and Arrow)
> > 8. Re: Rudy (d m gina)
> > 9. Re: Guide Dog User Discrimination (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 10. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Mike)
> > 11. Re: Rudy (Cindy Ray)
> > 12. Re: Hiking (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> > 13. Re: Rudy (Tamara Smith-Kinney)
> > 14. Re: Rudy (Pawpower Creations)
> > 15. Re: Rudy (John Doering)
> > 16. Re: Rudy (Sheila Leigland)
> > 17. Re: Rudy (d m gina)
> > 18. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Sheila Leigland)
> > 19. Re: Rudy (Steven Johnson)
> > 20. Re: Rudy (Sharonda Greenlaw)
> > 21. Re: Rudy (Sherri)
> > 22. Re: Rudy (Sherri)
> > 23. Re: Guide Dog User Discrimination (cheryl echevarria)
> > 24. Re: Rudy (Julie J)
> > 25. Re: Rudy (Marsha Drenth)
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:54:42 -0700
> > From: GARY STEEVES <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <fb6c32633c85c.4dd680b2 at shaw.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Hi Dawn:
> > 
> > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > 
> > > Good morning All,
> > > 
> > > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical 
> > > facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says 
> > > that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If 
> > > he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends 
> > > goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification 
> > > would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Thanks and have a great day!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:04:34 -0700
> > From: GARY STEEVES <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <fb9cb04f3c226.4dd68302 at shaw.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Hi Tracy:
> > 
> > Living in Vancouver Canada is a lucky place too. I used to date a girl with a car and we did all kinds of hikes. Once I started dating my current girlfriend (now of 7 years) who doesn't drive by choice, I decided to see where city transit would get us. To my surprise, we are able to get to almost all the hikes I used to get to by car. Yes, it takes a bit longer but who wants to have to drive after hiking 13 km in the foot hills. Last year Susan had hurt her leg so Bogart only had one stinf of about 5 days of hiking in the mountains. He seemed to do really well, no cut feet. Did worry about him falling off drop offs but after a couple of close calls (that is why they have four paws) he seemed to figure it out better. He is great off leash wehn we hike running a bit ahead and then coming back to check in with Susan and then further back to see me. I use 2 trekking poles when not using Bogart. We are able to tackle most things. I'm obviously slower with my poles than a sighted person but Susan says she enjoys hiking with me because I make her look around, partly to tell me what I'm going to encounter and partly because she has time to look around rather than just focussing on the trail to keep up to her friends.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:44 am
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are 
> > > they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting 
> > > trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > > 
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk 
> > > in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a 
> > > little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > > 
> > > > How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my 
> > > guide dog. I
> > > > live
> > > > in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week 
> > > out in the
> > > > forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried 
> > > using the booties
> > > > because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but 
> > > my dog kicks
> > > > them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the 
> > > trouble. She
> > > > did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but 
> > > never again
> > > > since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but 
> > > actually I
> > > > probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. 
> > > Trying to
> > > > follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very 
> > > awkward. I
> > > > think
> > > > using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be 
> > > better. I
> > > > rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out 
> > > with other
> > > > people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers 
> > > and I know all
> > > > the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I 
> > > wear a small
> > > > backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it 
> > > for her..
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > > Users"> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Jeff
> > > >> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was 
> > > wondering>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > > >> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jeffrey Young
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > > >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >>
> > > >> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite 
> > > often. I'm
> > > >> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do 
> > > people take
> > > >> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I 
> > > don't know how
> > > >> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious 
> > > hiking in
> > > >> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and 
> > > held on to a
> > > >> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties 
> > > because of
> > > >> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > > >> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff and Hansel
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:25:02 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <4DD6EA3E.4060703 at ComCast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > 
> > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > > Hi Dawn:
> > >
> > > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >
> > > 
> > >> Good morning All,
> > >>
> > >> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >> would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >> 
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> > >
> > > 
> > .
> > Thanks Gary.
> > 
> > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be 
> > abgle to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:49:20 -0500
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <4dd6efe1.0495970a.4ec9.24ad at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain that
> > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process that
> > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the rights
> > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William Burley
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:10:54 -0500
> > From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <FACA71F3-7768-489E-B3EF-74917D646863 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:20:27 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <C25CCB083E0B4D3AA1EE0E71B55A7099 at marion27df4b2a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Brandy,
> > NAGDU has been battling this precise issue for a couple of years. I 
> > would like to talk to you about this at your convenience. Please give me a 
> > call. My contact information is below my signature.
> > 
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala, President
> > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 813-626-2789
> > President at NAGDU.ORG
> > HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brandy Dawn Jenkins" <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > > Good morning All,
> > >
> > > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or one 
> > > of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > > clarification would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks and have a great day!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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> > > nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:26:57 -0400
> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <B8D778DE5A2647BA95FC42B283F6AD9D at meandmyarrow>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:34:12 -0400
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <20110521003412.6822.70890 at ip-10-203-66-216.ec2.internal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> > 
> > Oh my gosh,
> > Then to think that the dog was trying to share he needed to go out.
> > What a special guide.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look
> > >> at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy
> > >> came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found
> > >> him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > 
> > 
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
> > >> good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:41:17 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <A480D2497BA74EB38C0455209175EC66 at marion27df4b2a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > William,
> > Would you please have this person give me a call during the work week. I 
> > am certain we can convince the department store to do the right thing!
> > 
> > fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala, President
> > National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 813-626-2789
> > President at NAGDU.ORG
> > HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William Burley, III" <william.burley3 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain 
> > > that
> > > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process 
> > > that
> > > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the 
> > > rights
> > > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > William Burley
> > >
> > > Paralegal Coordinator
> > >
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> > >
> > > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > >
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> > >
> > > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > >
> > > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:57:30 -0700
> > From: "Mike" <underthetoaster at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <9B2635C4FBC04725A8001C7E52D501B4 at HatMachine>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Hi
> > I have experienced this one. When my great-grandmother was in some care 
> > facility at the very end of her life they said I couldn't use my dog in 
> > there. I didn't contest it at all since I had people to guide me and put him 
> > in the car but wondered about it, since, don't they bring therapy dogs etc. 
> > into those places? Also my granny liked the dog and would have liked seeing 
> > him.
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brandy Dawn Jenkins" <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > >> Hi Dawn:
> > >>
> > >> I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical 
> > >> centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood 
> > >> tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care 
> > >> centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will 
> > >> lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly 
> > >> concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious 
> > >> at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his 
> > >> teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Good luck
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > >> Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > >> Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Good morning All,
> > >>>
> > >>> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >>> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >>> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >>> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >>> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >>> would be appreciated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >>> Sincerely,
> > >>> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > > .
> > > Thanks Gary.
> > >
> > > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be abgle 
> > > to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dawn Jenkins
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:31:14 -0500
> > From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <772A5C96-A8FE-493B-9D67-567E2D032863 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Oh, Rox, I am so sorry for Bob. What a huge shock that had to be. Know you are in my thoughts and prayers.
> > 
> > Cindy Lou
> > ?
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:51:31 -0700
> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <460810D7C30D46C1B5FE68BF5350E3D0 at tamidesktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Gary,
> > 
> > I love the way Mitzi goes bounding ahead then comes bounding back to check
> > in. /smile/ When she's off leash, she will scope out what's ahead, then
> > report back if there's anything I need to worry about. I need to acquire a
> > couple of trekking poles this year... And a bus pass to get to the trails!
> > I keep trying to talk my roommates into going hiking, but they're big
> > woosies, and my former hiking buddy is off to law scholl so... Will have to
> > see what I can do!
> > 
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of GARY STEEVES
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:05 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > 
> > Hi Tracy:
> > 
> > Living in Vancouver Canada is a lucky place too. I used to date a girl with
> > a car and we did all kinds of hikes. Once I started dating my current
> > girlfriend (now of 7 years) who doesn't drive by choice, I decided to see
> > where city transit would get us. To my surprise, we are able to get to
> > almost all the hikes I used to get to by car. Yes, it takes a bit longer but
> > who wants to have to drive after hiking 13 km in the foot hills. Last year
> > Susan had hurt her leg so Bogart only had one stinf of about 5 days of
> > hiking in the mountains. He seemed to do really well, no cut feet. Did worry
> > about him falling off drop offs but after a couple of close calls (that is
> > why they have four paws) he seemed to figure it out better. He is great off
> > leash wehn we hike running a bit ahead and then coming back to check in with
> > Susan and then further back to see me. I use 2 trekking poles when not using
> > Bogart. We are able to tackle most things. I'm obviously slower with my
> > poles than a sighted person but Susan says she enjoys hiking with me because
> > I make her look around, partly to tell me what I'm going to encounter and
> > partly because she has time to look around rather than just focussing on the
> > trail to keep up to her friends.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:44 am
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are 
> > > they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting 
> > > trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > > 
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk 
> > > in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a 
> > > little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > > 
> > > > How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my 
> > > guide dog. I
> > > > live
> > > > in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week 
> > > out in the
> > > > forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried 
> > > using the booties
> > > > because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but 
> > > my dog kicks
> > > > them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the 
> > > trouble. She
> > > > did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but 
> > > never again
> > > > since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but 
> > > actually I
> > > > probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. 
> > > Trying to
> > > > follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very 
> > > awkward. I
> > > > think
> > > > using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be 
> > > better. I
> > > > rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out 
> > > with other
> > > > people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers 
> > > and I know all
> > > > the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I 
> > > wear a small
> > > > backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it 
> > > for her..
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > > Users"> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Jeff
> > > >> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was 
> > > wondering>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > > >> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jeffrey Young
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > > >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > > >>
> > > >> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite 
> > > often. I'm
> > > >> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do 
> > > people take
> > > >> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I 
> > > don't know how
> > > >> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious 
> > > hiking in
> > > >> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and 
> > > held on to a
> > > >> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties 
> > > because of
> > > >> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > > >> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff and Hansel
> > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:56:14 -0700
> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <BB0B5B376597476EA82A63E62BBDED3F at tamidesktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I cannot imagine your loss. Hugs to all of
> > you!
> > 
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:33:47 -0500
> > From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <5AF62D163D4D480690B7CE45050212D2 at BobBlacknerPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone for your kind words and comforting thoughts. I am
> > feeling the loss very Deeply right now. Rudy was an incredible dog. The
> > bond I developed with him was one of the strongest I have ever had with any
> > of my dogs. He was so alive, so full of life and curiosity, so anxious to
> > see what was up a head, or just around the next corner. Recently I have had
> > some extended hospital stays, and Rudy was there with me the whole time. He
> > was the anchor that kept me from losing my sanity. He stayed patiently by
> > my bedside, and he always seemed to know when the weight of his furry head
> > and cold nose was needed. He never wined or complained, and never got
> > restless. When I was able I took him out several times a day, and when I
> > was not he went calmly with whoever was there to take him. Today I lost
> > more than a dog, more than a friend, I lost a piece of my heart. 
> > I will always remember him bouncing and wiggling when his harness came out,
> > so much that it was difficult to put it on. I remember wanting to be stern
> > with him, and ending up laughing. That was another thing he was good at,
> > making me laugh. He was a big goofy, sweet wonderful guy. He was my Rudy
> > dude. He will live in my heart forever. 
> > 
> > Woofs and wags from the pawpower pack,
> > Queen Vristol, Mill'E to the max, Rudy the dude, and baby girl Laveau.
> > 
> > Pawpower Creations,
> > Bob Blackner/Rox'e Homstad,
> > 504-312-2609
> > pawpower at cox.net
> > www.pawpowercreations.com
> > 
> > Custom made guide dog equipment, 
> > products designed with you and your canine in mind.
> > 
> > I asked for strength that I might rear her perfectly;
> > I was given weakness that I might feed her more treats. 
> > 
> > I asked for good health that I might rest easy;
> > I was given a "special needs" dog that I might know nurturing. 
> > 
> > I asked for an obedient dog that I might feel proud;
> > I was given stubbornness that I might feel humble. 
> > 
> > I asked for compliance that I might feel masterful;
> > I was given a clown that I might laugh. 
> > 
> > I asked for a companion that I might not feel lonely;
> > I was given a best friend that I would feel loved. 
> > 
> > I got nothing I asked for,
> > But everything that I needed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Author unknown
> > 
> > 
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> > An embedded message was scrubbed...
> > From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:56:14 -0500
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:57:23 -0500
> > From: "John Doering" <doering at ameritech.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <F53517CA30444026981C2B1676E59F53 at john48552bad62>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > How terrible.
> > I grieve with thee.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > JD
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:14:31 -0600
> > From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <auto-000279962269 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Oh that is so hard. Our thoughts are with you. Sheila and Harold 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:34 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > Oh my gosh,
> > Then to think that the dog was trying to share he needed to go out.
> > What a special guide.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Rox, here's a hug for you and Bob. My heart goes out to you all.
> > 
> > > Hugs, margo and Arrow
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look
> > >> at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy
> > >> came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found
> > >> him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > 
> > 
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
> > >> good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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> > >> nagdu:
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/margo.downey%40verizon.net
> > 
> > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > -- 
> > --Dar
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> > every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:12:39 -0400
> > From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID:
> > <20110521031239.5508.40829 at domU-12-31-38-04-0E-D6.compute-1.internal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> > 
> > Now what you will do for your husband my dear is to help him with another dog.
> > You do the training smile.
> > You are good at what you do, and I believe in you.
> > 
> > Original message:
> > > Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I cannot imagine your loss. Hugs to all of
> > > you!
> > 
> > > Tami Smith-Kinney
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:11 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > > taste good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
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> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast
> > > .net
> > 
> > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > -- 
> > --Dar
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> > every sinner has a future
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:14:30 -0600
> > From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <auto-000279962276 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > I have only had questions once and I told them he was there and they didn't have a choice it was for a needle biopsy and it was done where ultrasound is done and he my dog had been there before so I know what his reactions were.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:25 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > On 20-May-11 17:54, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> > > Hi Dawn:
> > >
> > > I haven't encountered any issues when going to hospitals or other medical centres. I take Bogart to doctors, transplant clinics, when I do blood tests, when I go to the dentist, eye docs, work in seniors extended care centre, in the ultasound room, etc. Generally he is very good and will lay where I ask him to or otherwise he will stand and look on seemingly concerned about what the nasty person is doing to me. (especially curious at the dentist :). I try to explain to him if he doesn't let me brush his teeth he'll end up having to get his teeth cleaned like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > > Date: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:34 am
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >
> > > 
> > >> Good morning All,
> > >>
> > >> I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical
> > >> facilities. My husband donates plasma, and the staff says
> > >> that he must leave his guide dog Gia with one of them. If
> > >> he doesn't want to do that, either I or one of his other friends
> > >> goes with him to watch her. Any help or clarification
> > >> would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and have a great day!
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Dawn Jenkins
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> info for nagdu:
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> > >>
> > >> 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/dawn0713%40comcastnet
> > >
> > > 
> > .
> > Thanks Gary.
> > 
> > The staff at the place where he donates plasma says that Gia will be a 
> > distraction to the workers and they are concerned because there are so 
> > many beds so close together. We both believe that Gia would not be 
> > abgle to fit in the space with room for the staff to maneuver.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:02:06 -0500
> > From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <000d01cc176b$d9aec1b0$8d0c4510$@net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as the
> > loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > 
> > Steve 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nagdu mailing list
> > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.n
> > et
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:45:57 -0700
> > From: Sharonda Greenlaw <sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTinDD-6bZeLT9ZEuFj6NFW7ZWDekQw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > Rox,
> > I just read this! My heart goes out to you and Bob and the furries.
> > You all are in my prayers.
> > 
> > Sharonda
> > 
> > On 5/20/11, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
> > > Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as the
> > > loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > >
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > > taste good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.n
> > > et
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Sharonda Greenlaw
> > President (Phoenix Chapter)
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > -------------
> > Come, read and take a journey with me at
> > www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
> > or find me here:
> > http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
> > Skype: sharonda2004
> > Twitter: shari_rocks
> > Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:07:33 -0400
> > From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <90E95B95B03543E8AB7DAB1865A1E25E at DCB3VNJ1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Rox, so sorry about your husband's loss! So sad for all of you! Our dogs are 
> > so wonderful! My condolences.
> > 
> > Sherri
> > 
> > 
> > Have you visited my personal page at
> > http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
> > If so, Thank you for changing what it means to be blind.
> > If not, please go there now!
> > Thank you.
> > flmom2006 at gmail.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > Rox,
> > > I just read this! My heart goes out to you and Bob and the furries.
> > > You all are in my prayers.
> > >
> > > Sharonda
> > >
> > > On 5/20/11, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
> > >> Rox, please convey my condolences to your husband, but to you as well as 
> > >> the
> > >> loss of this member of your family has to be difficult.
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of The Pawpower Pack
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:11 PM
> > >> Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > >>
> > >> My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this
> > >> morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a
> > >> look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath,
> > >> when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the
> > >> yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > >>
> > >> This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so
> > >> very much.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and
> > >> taste good with ketchup.
> > >> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > >> nagdu:
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blinddog3%40charter.n
> > >> et
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> > >> nagdu:
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sbgreenlaw%40gmail.com
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Sharonda Greenlaw
> > > President (Phoenix Chapter)
> > > National Federation of the Blind
> > > -------------
> > > Come, read and take a journey with me at
> > > www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
> > > or find me here:
> > > http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
> > > Skype: sharonda2004
> > > Twitter: shari_rocks
> > > Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:10:51 -0400
> > From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <749F4B05C27241E49E409D5F284049F9 at DCB3VNJ1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > What a beautiful tribute to Rudy! He sounds like a very terrific dog! So 
> > sorry for your loss!
> > 
> > Sherri
> > Have you visited my personal page at
> > http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
> > If so, Thank you for changing what it means to be blind.
> > If not, please go there now!
> > Thank you.
> > flmom2006 at gmail.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks to everyone for your kind words and comforting thoughts. I am
> > > feeling the loss very Deeply right now. Rudy was an incredible dog. The
> > > bond I developed with him was one of the strongest I have ever had with 
> > > any
> > > of my dogs. He was so alive, so full of life and curiosity, so anxious to
> > > see what was up a head, or just around the next corner. Recently I have 
> > > had
> > > some extended hospital stays, and Rudy was there with me the whole time. 
> > > He
> > > was the anchor that kept me from losing my sanity. He stayed patiently by
> > > my bedside, and he always seemed to know when the weight of his furry head
> > > and cold nose was needed. He never wined or complained, and never got
> > > restless. When I was able I took him out several times a day, and when I
> > > was not he went calmly with whoever was there to take him. Today I lost
> > > more than a dog, more than a friend, I lost a piece of my heart.
> > > I will always remember him bouncing and wiggling when his harness came 
> > > out,
> > > so much that it was difficult to put it on. I remember wanting to be 
> > > stern
> > > with him, and ending up laughing. That was another thing he was good at,
> > > making me laugh. He was a big goofy, sweet wonderful guy. He was my Rudy
> > > dude. He will live in my heart forever.
> > >
> > > Woofs and wags from the pawpower pack,
> > > Queen Vristol, Mill'E to the max, Rudy the dude, and baby girl Laveau.
> > >
> > > Pawpower Creations,
> > > Bob Blackner/Rox'e Homstad,
> > > 504-312-2609
> > > pawpower at cox.net
> > > www.pawpowercreations.com
> > >
> > > Custom made guide dog equipment,
> > > products designed with you and your canine in mind.
> > >
> > > I asked for strength that I might rear her perfectly;
> > > I was given weakness that I might feed her more treats.
> > >
> > > I asked for good health that I might rest easy;
> > > I was given a "special needs" dog that I might know nurturing.
> > >
> > > I asked for an obedient dog that I might feel proud;
> > > I was given stubbornness that I might feel humble.
> > >
> > > I asked for compliance that I might feel masterful;
> > > I was given a clown that I might laugh.
> > >
> > > I asked for a companion that I might not feel lonely;
> > > I was given a best friend that I would feel loved.
> > >
> > > I got nothing I asked for,
> > > But everything that I needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Author unknown
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 06:09:59 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds214D0E9FA2F4A8412BE88DA1700 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > William I would have first stayed calm, ask to speak to the manager of the store, point out especially in Texas since NAGDU if I remember correctly they have a large presence as well as the NFB, since we are in Texas many times for our Conventions.
> > 
> > Again stay calm, explain that the dog is a guide dog, if it is in a mall, go to the Mall Management office, remember the department stores in malls, strip malls, etc pay rent to the Mall Management Companies. If all else fails, then in my case here in NY, but I am sure you can do that there in TX, I call the police, I make a formal complaint against the company. I then call the local newspaper and local tv station and inform them that this has happened. If it is a good reporter you are talking to they will ask for a statement for the department store representative and they will give there reply
> > 
> > If it is a major department store, TARGET, MACY, KOHLS, ETC, even small stores have a main corporate office, if you need to go online to find out the number customer service, or ask to speak to management of the department stores corporate offices, you will find this online. Let them know you were denied access with your guide dog. Tell them date, time, if you can find out the name of the employee who did this, etc. It will help.
> > 
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: William Burley, III<mailto:william.burley3 at gmail.com> 
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dog User Discrimination
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's been awhile since I've posted. I have to figure out how to take the
> > messages off of digest mode. I think that's part of the reason.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Today, I've heard of a local guide dog user here in Houston that went to a
> > department store and was told they had to leave. They tried to explain that
> > their dog was a service animal and forced to leave. Is there a process that
> > NAGDU tends to go through when attempting to educate stores as to the rights
> > of guide dog users and accessibility?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > William Burley
> > 
> > Paralegal Coordinator
> > 
> > Burley-Wilson & Associates, L.L.C.
> > 
> > 12401 S. Post Oak Road, Suite 228
> > 
> > Houston, Texas 77045
> > 
> > Telephone: (713) 551-8689
> > 
> > Business Mobile: (713) 364-9703
> > 
> > E-Mail: wburley at burley-wilson.com<mailto:wburley at burley-wilson.com> 
> > 
> > Web: www.burley-wilson.com<http://www.burley-wilson.com/> <http://www.burley-wilson.com/<http://www.burley-wilson.com/>> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 07:56:18 -0500
> > From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <002b01cc17b6$7a5f89b0$0201a8c0 at your07cc84feb2>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> > 
> > Bob and Rox,
> > 
> > I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
> > 
> > Julie
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 7:10 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > 
> > > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a look 
> > > at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, when Rudy 
> > > came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the yard and found 
> > > him there a few moments later.
> > >
> > > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > > very much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste 
> > > good with ketchup.
> > > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > > AIM: lillebriss
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:43:55 -0400
> > From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Rudy
> > Message-ID: <FC16BCB8B1364007A9DA2F216EA6E551 at Cptr233>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Rox and hubby,
> > 
> > I am so very very sorry to hear of this news. Please know that my thoughts,
> > prayers and love are with you and hubby during this difficult time. 
> > 
> > Wish I could reach through the computer to give you both a hug! So here is
> > virtual hugs *hugs*
> > 
> > Marsha 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of The Pawpower Pack
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:11 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Rudy
> > 
> > My husband's guide, Rudy, died very suddenly and unexpectedly this 
> > morning around 11 am. He was only seven years old. The vet had a 
> > look at him and has said it was his heart. Bob was having a bath, 
> > when Rudy came and nudged him to go outside. Bob let him out in the 
> > yard and found him there a few moments later.
> > 
> > This is all very shocking and terrible and we are grieving his loss so 
> > very much.
> > 
> > 
> > Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
> > taste good with ketchup.
> > http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
> > pawpower4me at gmail.com
> > AIM: lillebriss
> > 
> > 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:47:37 -0500
> From: holly mcknight <hollyandpolly at hotmail.com>
> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] RE Trying to find out more info about the travel
> angent, but having a problem.
> Message-ID: <bay152-w29DA0AB5ACE6596FC80D84BC730 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Hello, I saw on another post, info about atravel agent who works mostly with people with disabilities, and when I tried to follow her facebook link, my computer froze. If someone could send me the link again or another way of contacing this person, it would be great. I have cruised with my GDB dog and she did great! Carival Cruise Line were wonderful to us and I will be glad to answer any question ab out cruising or flying internationally with a guide, which I have also done, that anyone has. Thanks
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 22
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:17 -0500
> > 
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> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 2. Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the rudeness
> > of it (cheryl echevarria)
> > 3. Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 4. Re: Hiking (Mike)
> > 5. Re: Hiking (Tracy Carcione)
> > 6. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 7. Re: press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline (Elizabeth Campbell)
> > 8. Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 9. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (cheryl echevarria)
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:15:52 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Carol Holmes <cholmes33 at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <8C747B7EC33F4FC6A7E3461906C77B77 at frodo>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users' 
> > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me. 
> > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the
> > rudeness of it
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds43D1E74847DF5A77C448CA18E0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > For those who have an problem with the website, here is the article.
> > 
> > Small biz profile: Echevarria Travel
> > 
> > by Andrea Jones
> > Published: May 19, 2011
> > Tags: diabetes<http://libn.com/tag/diabetes/>, Echevarria Travel<http://libn.com/tag/echevarria-travel/>, Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://libn.com/tag/juvenile-diabetes-research-foundation/>, Norwegian Cruise Line<http://libn.com/tag/norwegian-cruise-line/>, physically disabled<http://libn.com/tag/physically-disabled/> 
> > 
> > Editor's Note: In honor of National Small Business Week, libn.com is profiling one small business a day on Long Island.
> > 
> > When life gave Cheryl Echevarria lemons, she made lemonade. But make hers with artificial sweetener.
> > 
> > The avid traveler lost her eyesight in 2001 due to juvenile diabetes and in 2009 started a full-service travel agency that also specializes in trips for the blind and disabled. Brentwood-based Echevarria Travel<http://echevarriatravel.com/> now boasts about 60 clients.
> > 
> > She travels with her husband and guide dog to make sure facilities are wheelchair-accessible and will screen properties to see if they can accommodate a wide range of allergies, sensitivities ranging from food to laundry products.
> > 
> > Echevarria's clients have vacationed at all-inclusive resorts, have gone on cruises and she takes groups on bus tours of Long Island, New York City and Upstate New York. She also puts together packages for conventions and incentive programs.
> > 
> > Since marketing money is tight, she gains new clients through referrals and through maintaining a presence on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201099493260769#!/pages/Echevarriatravelcom/166878217117> and Twitter<http://twitter.com/#!/echevarriatrave>.
> > 
> > Echevarria also participates in fundraising events to get the word out. For instance, she is working with the Long Island chapter of the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://www.jdrf.org/> on a seven-night fundraiser cruise on Norwegian Cruise Line<http://www.ncl.com/> that will sail from Miami to the Eastern Caribbean on March 31. Both the cruise line and Echevarria Travel are making donations to the foundation as part of the event.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan and his wife, who are both blind, used Echevarria Travel to book a cruise to Cozumel for their 10th anniversary. Unfortunately, Mrs. Brannan, who uses a wheelchair, had an accident aboard the ship.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan said Echevarria was instrumental in getting in touch with the travel insurance company to make sure the couple got a credit for future travel.
> > 
> > The Brannan's also had another problem during their trip: The cruise line didn't provide the Braille material they said they would. Echevarria again stepped in and worked with the cruise line's customer service department to make sure the same problem wouldn't happen with other visually impaired travelers.
> > 
> > "She's just been fantastic," Brannan said.
> > 
> > What's Echevarria's favorite destination? Walt Disney World<http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/>. "I cannot get enough of it before and after losing my vision
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:21:28 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D2354E5B60AA40079C336927E9C2FFF3 at frodo>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net>
> > To: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > I don't know the answer to the question about the bill. I will try and 
> > find out...
> > 
> > Carol
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:01:50 -0700
> > From: "Mike" <underthetoaster at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <8C6396B3B82241B49337248B3ECE0B16 at HatMachine>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Hi Tracy,
> > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind 
> > the dog.
> > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just 
> > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > >
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > >
> > >> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >> live
> > >> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in the
> > >> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the booties
> > >> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog 
> > >> kicks
> > >> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble. She
> > >> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually I
> > >> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying to
> > >> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >> think
> > >> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better. I
> > >> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know 
> > >> all
> > >> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a small
> > >> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Jeff
> > >>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often. I'm
> > >>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people take
> > >>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know how
> > >>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking in
> > >>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to a
> > >>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
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> > >>>
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:16:36 -0400
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <02ce9b9c4ccf7a35724e3cc34f535967.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Hi Mike.
> > Gosh, that sounds wonderful! If I walk 2 blocks from my house, I come to
> > either the railroad tracks or a busy street.
> > Tracy
> > 
> > > Hi Tracy,
> > > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind
> > > the dog.
> > > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just
> > > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > > Mike
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Mike.
> > >> That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to
> > >> your
> > >> house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > >> easily accessible by public transit.
> > >>
> > >> When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front
> > >> of
> > >> me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward,
> > >> but
> > >> is OK for short periods.
> > >> Tracy
> > >>
> > >>> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >>> live
> > >>> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in
> > >>> the
> > >>> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the
> > >>> booties
> > >>> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog
> > >>> kicks
> > >>> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble.
> > >>> She
> > >>> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >>> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually
> > >>> I
> > >>> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying
> > >>> to
> > >>> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >>> think
> > >>> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better.
> > >>> I
> > >>> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >>> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know
> > >>> all
> > >>> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a
> > >>> small
> > >>> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net>
> > >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Jeff
> > >>>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often.
> > >>>> I'm
> > >>>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people
> > >>>> take
> > >>>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know
> > >>>> how
> > >>>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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> > >>>> nagdu:
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> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:34:31 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D75A9D35A1564651AA249376ADE0E6AD at marion27df4b2a>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Ed,
> > Please write to me off-list, as I copied the message to you and seem to 
> > have an old address. My NAGDU address is
> > 
> > President at NAGDU.ORG
> > 
> > Thanks you!
> > 
> > Marion
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:06:50 -0500
> > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > Message-ID: <00006FDA108B45C7B11E64F61F119B2E at OwnerPC>
> > 
> > Hi Marion,
> > 
> > I know Holly, and will get in touch with her.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I won't be in Orlando, as I've got family obligations this 
> > summer. However, we are ready for everyone to come back to Dallas in 2012!!
> > 
> > Liz and Gabe
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > 
> > 
> > > Liz,
> > > I am working on some other hotline details right now. I will send you 
> > > an updated release as soon as I am able. There is someone on the NAGDU 
> > > list named Holly McKnight, who mentioned starting a graduate group of 
> > > guide dog users in Texas. She didn't mention a particular school, though, 
> > > so I am not sure if it would be a GDT group, one from another program, or 
> > > just a general group. In any case, perhaps we could get her involved in 
> > > the effort to get the TAGDU division together. There seems to be some 
> > > strong leaders in Texas, so i would like to look into getting at least a 
> > > committee started soon. Will you be in Orlando this year?
> > >
> > > marion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Marion,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks so much for the update on the press release.
> > >> Once you have the new version, I want to post it to the Google group I 
> > >> created for those in Texas who have guide dogs or who are interested in 
> > >> learning more.
> > >> We have a small group of guide dog users, and my hope is that we can 
> > >> eventually form a state division.
> > >>
> > >> Have a great day.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Liz and Gabe
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:33 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Liz,
> > >>> I will send it to you again after I edit it. We have purchased a new 
> > >>> number that is easier to remember, so I want to edit the release. Also, 
> > >>> we are doing an overhaul of the service to make it more user friendly 
> > >>> and using a real human, rather than a synthesized voice. We are planning 
> > >>> a re-release on June 1.
> > >>>
> > >>> fraternally yours,
> > >>> Marion
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>
> > >>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:06 AM
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello Marion!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I hope all is well with you.
> > >>>> When you get a minute, can you please send me the press release that 
> > >>>> was circulated to the NFB lists? I accidentally deleted the email with 
> > >>>> the information.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks much.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Liz and Gabe
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> > >>>> nagdu:
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> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:32:18 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <4DD67B72.6030603 at ComCast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > 
> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:35:44 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds1501729255401EF6CB096BA1710 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > well they are a public place, and the dog is allowed.
> > 
> > I worked for a medical lab, and I bring my maxx with me when I get my blood work drawn, and when I go to the hospital for my transplant appointments, etc.
> > 
> > They need to follow the ADA.
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net> 
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com>
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > End of nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 22
> > *************************************
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:18:42 -0500
> From: holly mcknight <hollyandpolly at hotmail.com>
> To: nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Please ignore my other message.
> Message-ID: <bay152-w29CD49622B5F9D283E819FBC730 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Hello, I was able to figure out the facebook info for the travel agent who works with people with disabilities. Please disreguard my earlier message about this. 
> On another subject, I am wondering how many other people from Texas are on this list. I have seen a couple of names that I know. I am trying to connect with other dog handlers in Texas, along with those who are considering the life style. I am also very active with the newly formed Lone Star Puppy raisers who are always looking for dog handlers or anyone else who might want to join them. They have a facebook page, where you can find them under lone star puppy raisers. I hope this helps someone. Holly McKnight 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:39:15 -0400
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] RE Trying to find out more info about the travel
> angent, but having a problem.
> Message-ID: <BLU162-ds54F3F52C79D6C5CADA4C7A1730 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Holly I am a guide dog user, I am also the lady that is doing the tours at the NFB Convention, I have sent many of our members on cruises and other places so you if you need my help contact me off list.
> 
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
> http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> 631-456-5394
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> 
> 
> 
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: holly mcknight<mailto:hollyandpolly at hotmail.com> 
> To: nagdu<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:47 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] RE Trying to find out more info about the travel angent, but having a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, I saw on another post, info about atravel agent who works mostly with people with disabilities, and when I tried to follow her facebook link, my computer froze. If someone could send me the link again or another way of contacing this person, it would be great. I have cruised with my GDB dog and she did great! Carival Cruise Line were wonderful to us and I will be glad to answer any question ab out cruising or flying internationally with a guide, which I have also done, that anyone has. Thanks
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-request at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 22
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:17 -0500
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> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 2. Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the rudeness
> > of it (cheryl echevarria)
> > 3. Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 4. Re: Hiking (Mike)
> > 5. Re: Hiking (Tracy Carcione)
> > 6. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 7. Re: press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline (Elizabeth Campbell)
> > 8. Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 9. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (cheryl echevarria)
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:15:52 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: Carol Holmes <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <8C747B7EC33F4FC6A7E3461906C77B77 at frodo<mailto:8C747B7EC33F4FC6A7E3461906C77B77 at frodo>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users' 
> > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me. 
> > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > To: <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the
> > rudeness of it
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds43D1E74847DF5A77C448CA18E0 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU162-ds43D1E74847DF5A77C448CA18E0 at phx.gbl>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > For those who have an problem with the website, here is the article.
> > 
> > Small biz profile: Echevarria Travel
> > 
> > by Andrea Jones
> > Published: May 19, 2011
> > Tags: diabetes<http://libn.com/tag/diabetes/<http://libn.com/tag/diabetes/>>, Echevarria Travel<http://libn.com/tag/echevarria-travel/<http://libn.com/tag/echevarria-travel/>>, Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://libn.com/tag/juvenile-diabetes-research-foundation/<http://libn.com/tag/juvenile-diabetes-research-foundation/>>, Norwegian Cruise Line<http://libn.com/tag/norwegian-cruise-line/<http://libn.com/tag/norwegian-cruise-line/>>, physically disabled<http://libn.com/tag/physically-disabled/<http://libn.com/tag/physically-disabled/>> 
> > 
> > Editor's Note: In honor of National Small Business Week, libn.com is profiling one small business a day on Long Island.
> > 
> > When life gave Cheryl Echevarria lemons, she made lemonade. But make hers with artificial sweetener.
> > 
> > The avid traveler lost her eyesight in 2001 due to juvenile diabetes and in 2009 started a full-service travel agency that also specializes in trips for the blind and disabled. Brentwood-based Echevarria Travel<http://echevarriatravel.com/<http://echevarriatravel.com/>> now boasts about 60 clients.
> > 
> > She travels with her husband and guide dog to make sure facilities are wheelchair-accessible and will screen properties to see if they can accommodate a wide range of allergies, sensitivities ranging from food to laundry products.
> > 
> > Echevarria's clients have vacationed at all-inclusive resorts, have gone on cruises and she takes groups on bus tours of Long Island, New York City and Upstate New York. She also puts together packages for conventions and incentive programs.
> > 
> > Since marketing money is tight, she gains new clients through referrals and through maintaining a presence on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201099493260769#!/pages/Echevarriatravelcom/166878217117<https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201099493260769#!/pages/Echevarriatravelcom/166878217117>> and Twitter<http://twitter.com/#!/echevarriatrave<http://twitter.com/#!/echevarriatrave>>.
> > 
> > Echevarria also participates in fundraising events to get the word out. For instance, she is working with the Long Island chapter of the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://www.jdrf.org/<http://www.jdrf.org/>> on a seven-night fundraiser cruise on Norwegian Cruise Line<http://www.ncl.com/<http://www.ncl.com/>> that will sail from Miami to the Eastern Caribbean on March 31. Both the cruise line and Echevarria Travel are making donations to the foundation as part of the event.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan and his wife, who are both blind, used Echevarria Travel to book a cruise to Cozumel for their 10th anniversary. Unfortunately, Mrs. Brannan, who uses a wheelchair, had an accident aboard the ship.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan said Echevarria was instrumental in getting in touch with the travel insurance company to make sure the couple got a credit for future travel.
> > 
> > The Brannan's also had another problem during their trip: The cruise line didn't provide the Braille material they said they would. Echevarria again stepped in and worked with the cruise line's customer service department to make sure the same problem wouldn't happen with other visually impaired travelers.
> > 
> > "She's just been fantastic," Brannan said.
> > 
> > What's Echevarria's favorite destination? Walt Disney World<http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/<http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/>>. "I cannot get enough of it before and after losing my vision
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/<http://www.echevarriatravel.com%3chttp//www.echevarriatravel.com/>> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com%3Cmailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:21:28 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D2354E5B60AA40079C336927E9C2FFF3 at frodo<mailto:D2354E5B60AA40079C336927E9C2FFF3 at frodo>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > To: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > I don't know the answer to the question about the bill. I will try and 
> > find out...
> > 
> > Carol
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:01:50 -0700
> > From: "Mike" <underthetoaster at gmail.com<mailto:underthetoaster at gmail.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <8C6396B3B82241B49337248B3ECE0B16 at HatMachine<mailto:8C6396B3B82241B49337248B3ECE0B16 at HatMachine>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Hi Tracy,
> > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind 
> > the dog.
> > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just 
> > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > >
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > >
> > >> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >> live
> > >> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in the
> > >> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the booties
> > >> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog 
> > >> kicks
> > >> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble. She
> > >> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually I
> > >> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying to
> > >> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >> think
> > >> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better. I
> > >> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know 
> > >> all
> > >> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a small
> > >> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net<mailto:brittneymejico at verizon.net>>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Jeff
> > >>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often. I'm
> > >>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people take
> > >>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know how
> > >>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking in
> > >>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to a
> > >>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:16:36 -0400
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <02ce9b9c4ccf7a35724e3cc34f535967.squirrel at mail.panix.com<mailto:02ce9b9c4ccf7a35724e3cc34f535967.squirrel at mail.panix.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Hi Mike.
> > Gosh, that sounds wonderful! If I walk 2 blocks from my house, I come to
> > either the railroad tracks or a busy street.
> > Tracy
> > 
> > > Hi Tracy,
> > > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind
> > > the dog.
> > > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just
> > > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > > Mike
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Mike.
> > >> That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to
> > >> your
> > >> house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > >> easily accessible by public transit.
> > >>
> > >> When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front
> > >> of
> > >> me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward,
> > >> but
> > >> is OK for short periods.
> > >> Tracy
> > >>
> > >>> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >>> live
> > >>> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in
> > >>> the
> > >>> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the
> > >>> booties
> > >>> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog
> > >>> kicks
> > >>> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble.
> > >>> She
> > >>> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >>> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually
> > >>> I
> > >>> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying
> > >>> to
> > >>> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >>> think
> > >>> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better.
> > >>> I
> > >>> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >>> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know
> > >>> all
> > >>> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a
> > >>> small
> > >>> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net<mailto:brittneymejico at verizon.net>>
> > >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Jeff
> > >>>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often.
> > >>>> I'm
> > >>>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people
> > >>>> take
> > >>>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know
> > >>>> how
> > >>>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>>>
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> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:34:31 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D75A9D35A1564651AA249376ADE0E6AD at marion27df4b2a<mailto:D75A9D35A1564651AA249376ADE0E6AD at marion27df4b2a>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Ed,
> > Please write to me off-list, as I copied the message to you and seem to 
> > have an old address. My NAGDU address is
> > 
> > President at NAGDU.ORG<mailto:President at NAGDU.ORG>
> > 
> > Thanks you!
> > 
> > Marion
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:06:50 -0500
> > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > Message-ID: <00006FDA108B45C7B11E64F61F119B2E at OwnerPC<mailto:00006FDA108B45C7B11E64F61F119B2E at OwnerPC>>
> > 
> > Hi Marion,
> > 
> > I know Holly, and will get in touch with her.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I won't be in Orlando, as I've got family obligations this 
> > summer. However, we are ready for everyone to come back to Dallas in 2012!!
> > 
> > Liz and Gabe
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > 
> > 
> > > Liz,
> > > I am working on some other hotline details right now. I will send you 
> > > an updated release as soon as I am able. There is someone on the NAGDU 
> > > list named Holly McKnight, who mentioned starting a graduate group of 
> > > guide dog users in Texas. She didn't mention a particular school, though, 
> > > so I am not sure if it would be a GDT group, one from another program, or 
> > > just a general group. In any case, perhaps we could get her involved in 
> > > the effort to get the TAGDU division together. There seems to be some 
> > > strong leaders in Texas, so i would like to look into getting at least a 
> > > committee started soon. Will you be in Orlando this year?
> > >
> > > marion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Marion,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks so much for the update on the press release.
> > >> Once you have the new version, I want to post it to the Google group I 
> > >> created for those in Texas who have guide dogs or who are interested in 
> > >> learning more.
> > >> We have a small group of guide dog users, and my hope is that we can 
> > >> eventually form a state division.
> > >>
> > >> Have a great day.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Liz and Gabe
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:33 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Liz,
> > >>> I will send it to you again after I edit it. We have purchased a new 
> > >>> number that is easier to remember, so I want to edit the release. Also, 
> > >>> we are doing an overhaul of the service to make it more user friendly 
> > >>> and using a real human, rather than a synthesized voice. We are planning 
> > >>> a re-release on June 1.
> > >>>
> > >>> fraternally yours,
> > >>> Marion
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > >>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:06 AM
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello Marion!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I hope all is well with you.
> > >>>> When you get a minute, can you please send me the press release that 
> > >>>> was circulated to the NFB lists? I accidentally deleted the email with 
> > >>>> the information.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks much.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Liz and Gabe
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:32:18 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net>>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <4DD67B72.6030603 at ComCast.net<mailto:4DD67B72.6030603 at ComCast.net>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > 
> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:35:44 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds1501729255401EF6CB096BA1710 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU162-ds1501729255401EF6CB096BA1710 at phx.gbl>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > well they are a public place, and the dog is allowed.
> > 
> > I worked for a medical lab, and I bring my maxx with me when I get my blood work drawn, and when I go to the hospital for my transplant appointments, etc.
> > 
> > They need to follow the ADA.
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/<http://www.echevarriatravel.com%3chttp//www.echevarriatravel.com/>> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com%3Cmailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net>> 
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> 
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > 
> > 
> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
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> > 
> > End of nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 22
> > *************************************
> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:37:52 -0400
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] RE Trying to find out more info about the travel
> angent, but having a problem.
> Message-ID: <BLU162-ds5819EB8F9EE65E68EEB1FA1730 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> do you mean me.
> 
> 
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
> http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/> 
> 631-456-5394
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
> 
> 
> 
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: holly mcknight<mailto:hollyandpolly at hotmail.com> 
> To: nagdu<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:47 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] RE Trying to find out more info about the travel angent, but having a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, I saw on another post, info about atravel agent who works mostly with people with disabilities, and when I tried to follow her facebook link, my computer froze. If someone could send me the link again or another way of contacing this person, it would be great. I have cruised with my GDB dog and she did great! Carival Cruise Line were wonderful to us and I will be glad to answer any question ab out cruising or flying internationally with a guide, which I have also done, that anyone has. Thanks
> 
> > From: nagdu-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-request at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: nagdu Digest, Vol 74, Issue 22
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:00:17 -0500
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 2. Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the rudeness
> > of it (cheryl echevarria)
> > 3. Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Ed Meskys)
> > 4. Re: Hiking (Mike)
> > 5. Re: Hiking (Tracy Carcione)
> > 6. Re: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398 (Marion Gwizdala)
> > 7. Re: press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline (Elizabeth Campbell)
> > 8. Guide dogs and medical facilities. (Brandy Dawn Jenkins)
> > 9. Re: Guide dogs and medical facilities. (cheryl echevarria)
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:15:52 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: Carol Holmes <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <8C747B7EC33F4FC6A7E3461906C77B77 at frodo<mailto:8C747B7EC33F4FC6A7E3461906C77B77 at frodo>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users' 
> > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me. 
> > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:47:26 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > To: <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Publisher fixed the article and apologized for the
> > rudeness of it
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds43D1E74847DF5A77C448CA18E0 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU162-ds43D1E74847DF5A77C448CA18E0 at phx.gbl>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > For those who have an problem with the website, here is the article.
> > 
> > Small biz profile: Echevarria Travel
> > 
> > by Andrea Jones
> > Published: May 19, 2011
> > Tags: diabetes<http://libn.com/tag/diabetes/<http://libn.com/tag/diabetes/>>, Echevarria Travel<http://libn.com/tag/echevarria-travel/<http://libn.com/tag/echevarria-travel/>>, Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://libn.com/tag/juvenile-diabetes-research-foundation/<http://libn.com/tag/juvenile-diabetes-research-foundation/>>, Norwegian Cruise Line<http://libn.com/tag/norwegian-cruise-line/<http://libn.com/tag/norwegian-cruise-line/>>, physically disabled<http://libn.com/tag/physically-disabled/<http://libn.com/tag/physically-disabled/>> 
> > 
> > Editor's Note: In honor of National Small Business Week, libn.com is profiling one small business a day on Long Island.
> > 
> > When life gave Cheryl Echevarria lemons, she made lemonade. But make hers with artificial sweetener.
> > 
> > The avid traveler lost her eyesight in 2001 due to juvenile diabetes and in 2009 started a full-service travel agency that also specializes in trips for the blind and disabled. Brentwood-based Echevarria Travel<http://echevarriatravel.com/<http://echevarriatravel.com/>> now boasts about 60 clients.
> > 
> > She travels with her husband and guide dog to make sure facilities are wheelchair-accessible and will screen properties to see if they can accommodate a wide range of allergies, sensitivities ranging from food to laundry products.
> > 
> > Echevarria's clients have vacationed at all-inclusive resorts, have gone on cruises and she takes groups on bus tours of Long Island, New York City and Upstate New York. She also puts together packages for conventions and incentive programs.
> > 
> > Since marketing money is tight, she gains new clients through referrals and through maintaining a presence on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201099493260769#!/pages/Echevarriatravelcom/166878217117<https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201099493260769#!/pages/Echevarriatravelcom/166878217117>> and Twitter<http://twitter.com/#!/echevarriatrave<http://twitter.com/#!/echevarriatrave>>.
> > 
> > Echevarria also participates in fundraising events to get the word out. For instance, she is working with the Long Island chapter of the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation<http://www.jdrf.org/<http://www.jdrf.org/>> on a seven-night fundraiser cruise on Norwegian Cruise Line<http://www.ncl.com/<http://www.ncl.com/>> that will sail from Miami to the Eastern Caribbean on March 31. Both the cruise line and Echevarria Travel are making donations to the foundation as part of the event.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan and his wife, who are both blind, used Echevarria Travel to book a cruise to Cozumel for their 10th anniversary. Unfortunately, Mrs. Brannan, who uses a wheelchair, had an accident aboard the ship.
> > 
> > Buddy Brannan said Echevarria was instrumental in getting in touch with the travel insurance company to make sure the couple got a credit for future travel.
> > 
> > The Brannan's also had another problem during their trip: The cruise line didn't provide the Braille material they said they would. Echevarria again stepped in and worked with the cruise line's customer service department to make sure the same problem wouldn't happen with other visually impaired travelers.
> > 
> > "She's just been fantastic," Brannan said.
> > 
> > What's Echevarria's favorite destination? Walt Disney World<http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/<http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/>>. "I cannot get enough of it before and after losing my vision
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel
> > 
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.Echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/<http://www.echevarriatravel.com%3chttp//www.echevarriatravel.com/>> 
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com%3Cmailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel, Inc.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:21:28 -0400
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Fw: {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D2354E5B60AA40079C336927E9C2FFF3 at frodo<mailto:D2354E5B60AA40079C336927E9C2FFF3 at frodo>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > To: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > I don't know the answer to the question about the bill. I will try and 
> > find out...
> > 
> > Carol
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:01:50 -0700
> > From: "Mike" <underthetoaster at gmail.com<mailto:underthetoaster at gmail.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <8C6396B3B82241B49337248B3ECE0B16 at HatMachine<mailto:8C6396B3B82241B49337248B3ECE0B16 at HatMachine>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Hi Tracy,
> > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind 
> > the dog.
> > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just 
> > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Mike.
> > > That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to your
> > > house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > > easily accessible by public transit.
> > >
> > > When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front of
> > > me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward, but
> > > is OK for short periods.
> > > Tracy
> > >
> > >> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >> live
> > >> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in the
> > >> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the booties
> > >> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog 
> > >> kicks
> > >> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble. She
> > >> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually I
> > >> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying to
> > >> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >> think
> > >> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better. I
> > >> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know 
> > >> all
> > >> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a small
> > >> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net<mailto:brittneymejico at verizon.net>>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Jeff
> > >>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often. I'm
> > >>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people take
> > >>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know how
> > >>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking in
> > >>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to a
> > >>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > >>> nagdu:
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/brittneymejico%40verizon.net<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/brittneymejico%40verizon.net>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:16:36 -0400
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > Message-ID: <02ce9b9c4ccf7a35724e3cc34f535967.squirrel at mail.panix.com<mailto:02ce9b9c4ccf7a35724e3cc34f535967.squirrel at mail.panix.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Hi Mike.
> > Gosh, that sounds wonderful! If I walk 2 blocks from my house, I come to
> > either the railroad tracks or a busy street.
> > Tracy
> > 
> > > Hi Tracy,
> > > That's the same thing I do with narrow paths, just follow directly behind
> > > the dog.
> > > Oh and yes I am lucky enough to live on the edge of a small town so I just
> > > walk two blocks then it's woods forever.
> > > Mike
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net<mailto:carcione at access.net>>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:42 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Mike.
> > >> That sounds great! How do you get to the trails? Are they close to
> > >> your
> > >> house? The problem where I am is that any interesting trails are not
> > >> easily accessible by public transit.
> > >>
> > >> When I have to go on a narrow path, I usually let the dog walk in front
> > >> of
> > >> me. I think of it as "single file" guidework. It's a little awkward,
> > >> but
> > >> is OK for short periods.
> > >> Tracy
> > >>
> > >>> How funny I just this minute got back from a hike with my guide dog. I
> > >>> live
> > >>> in Oregon and do some small hikes all the time during the week out in
> > >>> the
> > >>> forest and some longer day hikes on weekends. I tried using the
> > >>> booties
> > >>> because there are places here where there are sharp rocks but my dog
> > >>> kicks
> > >>> them off easily after a while. So now I don't even go to the trouble.
> > >>> She
> > >>> did cut her feet one of the first times without booties but never again
> > >>> since then. I think they toughened up. I don't use a pole but actually
> > >>> I
> > >>> probably should. No reason a dog would get in the way of that. Trying
> > >>> to
> > >>> follow her down very steep narrow trails is sometimes very awkward. I
> > >>> think
> > >>> using a pole and making her go behind in those places would be better.
> > >>> I
> > >>> rely on GPS and a braille compass as backup and only go out with other
> > >>> people for the really long hauls. Mostly It's like 5-milers and I know
> > >>> all
> > >>> the trails so I go alone. Well with my dog though. Oh but I wear a
> > >>> small
> > >>> backpack with water for both of us and a plastic bowl in it for her..
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Brittney N. Mejico" <brittneymejico at verizon.net<mailto:brittneymejico at verizon.net>>
> > >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:25 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Jeff
> > >>>> I guess great minds think a like because earlier today I was wondering
> > >>>> about hiking with a dog guide.
> > >>>> I had the same questions as you LOL.
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Jeffrey Young
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:09 PM
> > >>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > >>>> Subject: [nagdu] Hiking
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've heard that blind people go hiking with their dogs quite often.
> > >>>> I'm
> > >>>> wondering how much hiking? Do they go on overnight trips? Do people
> > >>>> take
> > >>>> their dogs even on very rough terain?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm planning on doing some backpacking this summer, and I don't know
> > >>>> how
> > >>>> much I should rely on Hansel. I use to do some pretty serious hiking
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> boy scouts, but then I used the cane as a walking stick and held on to
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> person's pack. Also, should I have the dog where booties because of
> > >>>> possible sharp rocks and whatnot?
> > >>>> Sorry for such a loaded email.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jeff and Hansel
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > >>>> nagdu:
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/brittneymejico%40verizon.net<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/brittneymejico%40verizon.net>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> nagdu mailing list
> > >> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:34:31 -0400
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > Message-ID: <D75A9D35A1564651AA249376ADE0E6AD at marion27df4b2a<mailto:D75A9D35A1564651AA249376ADE0E6AD at marion27df4b2a>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> > 
> > Ed,
> > Please write to me off-list, as I copied the message to you and seem to 
> > have an old address. My NAGDU address is
> > 
> > President at NAGDU.ORG<mailto:President at NAGDU.ORG>
> > 
> > Thanks you!
> > 
> > Marion
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com<mailto:edmeskys at roadrunner.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Cc: "Carol Holmes" <cholmes33 at comcast.net<mailto:cholmes33 at comcast.net>>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] {Disarmed} Fw: [DogGuideUsersNH] Hb. 398
> > 
> > 
> > >I for3warded your query to Carol Holmes, head of the NH dog guide users'
> > > group, which had lobbied for the new law. She has not yet replied to me.
> > > Maybe she wrote you? Ed Meskys
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > nagdu mailing list
> > > nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > > nagdu:
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:06:50 -0500
> > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > Message-ID: <00006FDA108B45C7B11E64F61F119B2E at OwnerPC<mailto:00006FDA108B45C7B11E64F61F119B2E at OwnerPC>>
> > 
> > Hi Marion,
> > 
> > I know Holly, and will get in touch with her.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I won't be in Orlando, as I've got family obligations this 
> > summer. However, we are ready for everyone to come back to Dallas in 2012!!
> > 
> > Liz and Gabe
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > 
> > 
> > > Liz,
> > > I am working on some other hotline details right now. I will send you 
> > > an updated release as soon as I am able. There is someone on the NAGDU 
> > > list named Holly McKnight, who mentioned starting a graduate group of 
> > > guide dog users in Texas. She didn't mention a particular school, though, 
> > > so I am not sure if it would be a GDT group, one from another program, or 
> > > just a general group. In any case, perhaps we could get her involved in 
> > > the effort to get the TAGDU division together. There seems to be some 
> > > strong leaders in Texas, so i would like to look into getting at least a 
> > > committee started soon. Will you be in Orlando this year?
> > >
> > > marion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Marion,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks so much for the update on the press release.
> > >> Once you have the new version, I want to post it to the Google group I 
> > >> created for those in Texas who have guide dogs or who are interested in 
> > >> learning more.
> > >> We have a small group of guide dog users, and my hope is that we can 
> > >> eventually form a state division.
> > >>
> > >> Have a great day.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Liz and Gabe
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>>
> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:33 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Liz,
> > >>> I will send it to you again after I edit it. We have purchased a new 
> > >>> number that is easier to remember, so I want to edit the release. Also, 
> > >>> we are doing an overhaul of the service to make it more user friendly 
> > >>> and using a real human, rather than a synthesized voice. We are planning 
> > >>> a re-release on June 1.
> > >>>
> > >>> fraternally yours,
> > >>> Marion
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net<mailto:batescampbell at charter.net>>
> > >>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:06 AM
> > >>> Subject: [nagdu] press release on NAGDU advocacy hotline
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello Marion!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I hope all is well with you.
> > >>>> When you get a minute, can you please send me the press release that 
> > >>>> was circulated to the NFB lists? I accidentally deleted the email with 
> > >>>> the information.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks much.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Liz and Gabe
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> nagdu mailing list
> > >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:32:18 -0400
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins <dawn0713 at ComCast.net<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net>>
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <4DD67B72.6030603 at ComCast.net<mailto:4DD67B72.6030603 at ComCast.net>>
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> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:35:44 -0400
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
> > Message-ID: <BLU162-ds1501729255401EF6CB096BA1710 at phx.gbl<mailto:BLU162-ds1501729255401EF6CB096BA1710 at phx.gbl>>
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> > well they are a public place, and the dog is allowed.
> > 
> > I worked for a medical lab, and I bring my maxx with me when I get my blood work drawn, and when I go to the hospital for my transplant appointments, etc.
> > 
> > They need to follow the ADA.
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Brandy Dawn Jenkins<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net<mailto:dawn0713 at ComCast.net>> 
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> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and medical facilities.
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> > 
> > Good morning All,
> > 
> > I was wondering what the laws may be regarding medical facilities. My 
> > husband donates plasma, and the staff says that he must leave his guide 
> > dog Gia with one of them. If he doesn't want to do that, either I or 
> > one of his other friends goes with him to watch her. Any help or 
> > clarification would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks and have a great day!
> > Sincerely,
> > Dawn Jenkins
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