[nagdu] importance of education on guide/assistance dogs

Thu Nov 10 00:22:36 UTC 2011

That's funny. My current frothing craze is to get an iPhone at the first 
possible second! /lol/ If I don't have an iPhone, I will made DD crazy 
by going on and on about the bleeping iPhone.

Well, I did almost order one the other day, then decided to hold off a 
little longer... Oddly, a key reason I thik the iPHone is the greatest 
thing since sliced bread is that I could use to look things up on the bus...

To each their own, I guess. /lol/

Tami

On 11/09/2011 04:05 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> If you don't have an I-phone, well, you don't have an I-phone!! I don't
> have one iether. I like the Haven myself. I don't have to look up
> everything while trying to snooze on the bus!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] importance of education on guide/assistance dogs
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>> Rob, you must not have an Iphone. I've seen people lust after those
>> things, wanting to touch, see how it works, can yours do what mine
>> does, stuff like that.
>> And people do touch children, though maybe not as much with a guy
>> present.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert Hooper
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:48 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] importance of education on guide/assistance dogs
>>
>> Hello Bibi and others:
>>
>> I might as well use this subject line to build upon your thoughts by
>> providing some of my own. Luckily, I have experienced few annoying
>> uneducated citizen issues, but I have definitely had my share. A few
>> days ago, I was standing outside the university library, in the midst
>> of a serious conversation with my friend about something or other
>> class-related. Some individual, as he walks between us, seems to pay
>> no heed to the fact that I was preoccupied and asks "Can I pet him".
>> My response, tailored to the situation was a short, "no".
>> There was another such time when I was standing outside the library in
>> order to take a phone call and once again I was interrupted as though
>> I had nothing better to do than stand around and grant peoples' wishes
>> to molest my dog. I understand those who may be "dog" people, and I
>> enthusiastically include myself in that crowd. However, my patience is
>> very thin when it comes to people's lack of common courtesy. They
>> don't fondle the phone they see in my hand, why should they fondle my
>> dog? They don't fondle others' children, why should they fondle my
>> dog? Somebody once saw me correct my dog--this person was a bus
>> driver. He didn't even ask for an explanation, but after I had
>> boarded, I explained to him what I did and why. I am glad to educate
>> people and inform them of the various things I do and why, but I am
>> very short with those who don't even have the manners to ask before
>> they potentially cause me to blunder into a light pole with their
>> ignorant distractions.
>> Sorry for what no-doubt seems like an abrasive rant, but I have had a
>> long day and I enjoy topics such as these.
>>
>> Robert Hooper
>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>> The Ohio State University
>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>> (740) 856-8195
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 2:01 PM
>> To: ";"
>> Subject: [nagdu] importance of education on guide/assistance dogs
>>
>> Hi, all,
>> Since I've posted about the situation I've been in for a while which
>> was having to fight my apartment complex so I can get a successor
>> guide dog when that time is right, I figured to get another subject
>> line going.
>> Can't remember exactly which lists there's been a discussion on
>> certified and no certified service dogs, so here it goes.
>> *Smiles*
>> When I did some initial research on the service dog law here in
>> Colorado, I've began to realize that the law isn't publicly
>> well-known, meaning not everyone is aware of it.
>> If the protection law was more well-known or made aware of, there
>> would be lesser problems of interfierence from people and other pet
>> owners as a whole, interrupting a guide/assistance dog's job.
>> My next approach that I'll be taking is to speak with the denver
>> Office of Disability Rights Commision to express the important part of
>> a working dog in the hopes that I can also contact my senator and
>> Governor Hickenlooper here in Colorado.
>> My ultimate goal is I can try to get the service dog law to be
>> officially past so it is an actual bill for the whole state of Colorado.
>> This is not just for me, but for others too as I want to make sure
>> they don't have to put up with unnecessary harassment or problems.
>> Another good example of why I decided to write about this?
>> My friend, Amanda Dreher happened to be inside of a Chase bank here in
>> downtown Denver on the 16th Street Mall a couple days ago at an ATM
>> machine.
>> She had her hearing dog Louie in a sit stay position until an unknown
>> lady approached Louie, started talking to him, petting him and not
>> bothering to read his orange vest which clearly states "hearing dog,
>> please do not pet."
>> The lady didn't care and still did it anyway.
>> That caused Louie to get up and become distracted, leaving my friend
>> Amanda Dreher angry and annoyed.
>> What makes me irritated and disgusted with people is when they have
>> the nerve to ask "Is The Dog In Training?"
>> If it was true that a service dog would be in training, they would
>> have a vest that actually says such and such in training.
>> louie's vest doesn't state that he's in training, but a hearing dog.
>> I've had people ask me the same question when Odie wears his medical
>> alert service dog vest, despite that one patch says medical alert and
>> another one says please do not pet.
>> Louie was trained at International Hearing Dogs out here in Henderson,
>> Colorado and they do issue identiication cards to their clients.
>> The identification cards are the same thing which those who do use
>> guide dogs automatically get from their guide dog school of choice.
>> Truth is that I sometimes want to say to people who continuously
>> decide to behave rediculously when they ask the question I mentioned
>> above and say, "Why is that your concern?"
>> I know that would be rude of me to do so, but after a while, you feel
>> as if you've had enough.
>> One tactic I've come up with and this is something that neither guide
>> dog school have taught anyone as a whole is to put my left hand and
>> arm over Odie's head, creating a barrier to indicate I don't want
>> people just coming up out of nowhere and making attemps or even
>> touching him withoutt my permission.
>> Even back when Odie was a guide dog, I still did the same thing.
>> My husband, dale noticed when I'd do that and he told me that was my
>> way of going into defense mode and being on the ready for an unknown
>> hand to come at our four-legged furry partner.
>> Back to the law, my friend Natalie and I have been talking about it a
>> lot and I've told her directly of the next plan I have in the hopes I
>> can get the Chief of Police, Disability Rights Commission and Downtown
>> denver Partnership along with myself to work on strengthening that law.
>> I've also encouraged Natalie by letting her know she'd definitely be
>> welcomed to help me out with accomplishing this task as well.
>> It seems weird that with older states here in the US, laws are more
>> stricter and service dog protection is more well-known than here in
>> Colorado.
>> Although Colorado is yunger than some states, I do agree that there
>> shouldn't be an excuse for the law not being tougher and it can happen.
>> I'll admit that when people have tried to come up and mess with Odie,
>> he'd clearly make it known when he didn't want to be bothered,
>> especially after a long day of traveling.
>> He would display that directly on his face upon turning away from an
>> individual or moving around to let them know they need to back off and
>> leave.
>> So, I'll be doing some more research to get in contact with Senator
>> Michael Bennett so I can speak with him directly and try to give him
>> and others the information I've found.
>> All right...
>> Another confession time here and this one has nothing to do with
>> special treatment.
>> Earlier this year during the time I had encountered my second seizure
>> (technically the third one) on june 16, 2011 ten or eleven hours apart
>> after the first one, Dale wanted to get Odie into the medical alert
>> service dog vest before we went downstairs to the waiting ambulance.
>> Both fire department and paramedics told us there was no time to get
>> the vest on and just quickly slip on a leash and collar with
>> identification tags.
>> Luckily, denver Health Medical knows Odie very well and since I worked
>> hard on keeping him in tackt to be sure he stayed well-behaved, they
>> still knew that he was a working dog, even withoutt his vest on.
>> The security guards and staff on the hospital grounds gave us no
>> trouble nor did they say a word about Odie being there in the
>> buildings with my husband as they had to go over to the pharmacy to
>> grab my seizure meds while I remained in the emergency room.
>>
>>
>> Because of that type of circumstance, I know there will be listers who
>> might feel that was special treatment, but truth is that there was no
>> special treatment involved or brought upon by the fire department or
>> paramedics in that situation.
>> It was more they were concerned that if I didn't get the medical
>> treatment, the convulsive grandmal seizure would have killed me right
>> on the spot.
>> Yes, Odie for the most part does have his medical alert vest on when
>> he goes with Dale or I.
>> Just my thoughts on this one.
>> Bibi and Odie
>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>
>>
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