[nagdu] going on a bus

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sat Nov 12 15:30:32 UTC 2011


Holly for some reason doesn't like to slide under bus seats here!  She likes 
to stay out of the way and watch all of the passengers.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus


> Larry,
> I find the same, and many times will use those seats if they are not
> occupied by a lift passenger to just slide my guide under them to keep her
> out of the way.  The curb-level buses are now the buses of choice for most
> transit agencies, and we find them very nice to use and easy to enter and
> exit.  In fact, the most forward seats on these buses are behind the front
> wheel-wells, so they are actually the ones I am describing.  Now, in the
> older model buses that still have steps, many times, these still have the
> seats right by the stair-well, which can create a potential blockage for
> passengers loading and unloading, and this is why I prefer to go back into
> the bus a bit to actually be out of the way to keep the aisle clear, but 
> to
> also protect my dog.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:03 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
>
> I've found that if there is no strollers on our busses, the place where 
> they
>
> go is great for dogs!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
>
>
>> Marilyn,
>> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus?  Most 
>> certainly
>> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based on the
>> fact
>> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more and more
>> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the bus where
>> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are not in
>> jeopardy of being stepped on.  Just curious about your experience with
>> this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of marilyn
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
>> To: nagdu
>> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>> you had some experience on the bus. I have gone through that many times.
>> The
>> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people. Why ?
>> because there is more room. Back in the 80's when I was commuting to the
>> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a bad
>> neighborhood to get to the train. A woman got on at a stop and saw me and
>> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the bus. She 
>> said
>> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation. The driver
>> told
>> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not throwing 
>> me
>> off with my dog. I told the woman those people (meaning me) have more
>> rights
>> to ride the bus than you do. your sighted you can drive a car I can't. I
>> don't have a choice. the driver was very nice and said he liked my come
>> back.
>> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were going on to
>> the NYC for the day. She was a cane user and I had my dog. On the train a
>> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog was 
>> evil.
>
>> I
>> had Parker a black lab. He said black dogs are evil. I told him I was not
>> moving and he could go sit in another car. I told him my dog is a 
>> blessing
>> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is . the
>> conductor said he had a turban on his head. My friend was nervous and 
>> said
>> that is why I won't get a dog. to many problems. I said there are no
>> problems with you stand up for your rights. Its educating the public. We
>> had
>> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
>> Marilyn and Anna
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