[nagdu] going on a bus

Sun Nov 13 00:34:15 UTC 2011

Larry,

That is so totally a poodle thing. My 54 pound poodle is impossible to 
physicallly tuck under a bus or train seat. I've been trying to figure 
that out for 4 years now and just can't seem to make it work. /lol/ So 
I've started asking every poodle guide user I meet anywhere the burning 
question on my mind about poodle guides...

Nope! Poodles definitively do not tuck under the seat of the bus. You 
just have to figure something out.

Poodles also need to watch what's going on. They *need* to. Once you 
accept that and accommodate the poodle, life is ever so much easier.

Well, we've become pretty good at finding ways to keep the poodle out of 
the way, safe, all that, while still being able to watch everything that 
is going on. She can last a little while in places where she can't see, 
but she gets real jumpy after awhile at every little sound. Whereas, if 
she can lie down and still se what is going on, she is fine. She is good 
at finding seats where we can both be happy and relaxed if we have to be 
there for any period of time . Smart dog. Very, very quirky. /smile/

Tami

On 11/12/2011 07:30 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> Holly for some reason doesn't like to slide under bus seats here! She
> likes to stay out of the way and watch all of the passengers.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
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>
>> Larry,
>> I find the same, and many times will use those seats if they are not
>> occupied by a lift passenger to just slide my guide under them to keep
>> her
>> out of the way. The curb-level buses are now the buses of choice for most
>> transit agencies, and we find them very nice to use and easy to enter and
>> exit. In fact, the most forward seats on these buses are behind the front
>> wheel-wells, so they are actually the ones I am describing. Now, in the
>> older model buses that still have steps, many times, these still have the
>> seats right by the stair-well, which can create a potential blockage for
>> passengers loading and unloading, and this is why I prefer to go back
>> into
>> the bus a bit to actually be out of the way to keep the aisle clear,
>> but to
>> also protect my dog.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
>>
>> I've found that if there is no strollers on our busses, the place
>> where they
>>
>> go is great for dogs!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson"
>> <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
>>
>>
>>> Marilyn,
>>> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus? Most
>>> certainly
>>> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based on the
>>> fact
>>> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more and more
>>> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the bus
>>> where
>>> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are not in
>>> jeopardy of being stepped on. Just curious about your experience with
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of marilyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
>>> To: nagdu
>>> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>> you had some experience on the bus. I have gone through that many times.
>>> The
>>> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people. Why ?
>>> because there is more room. Back in the 80's when I was commuting to the
>>> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a bad
>>> neighborhood to get to the train. A woman got on at a stop and saw me
>>> and
>>> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the bus. She
>>> said
>>> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation. The driver
>>> told
>>> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not
>>> throwing me
>>> off with my dog. I told the woman those people (meaning me) have more
>>> rights
>>> to ride the bus than you do. your sighted you can drive a car I can't. I
>>> don't have a choice. the driver was very nice and said he liked my come
>>> back.
>>> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were going
>>> on to
>>> the NYC for the day. She was a cane user and I had my dog. On the
>>> train a
>>> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog was
>>> evil.
>>
>>> I
>>> had Parker a black lab. He said black dogs are evil. I told him I was
>>> not
>>> moving and he could go sit in another car. I told him my dog is a
>>> blessing
>>> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is . the
>>> conductor said he had a turban on his head. My friend was nervous and
>>> said
>>> that is why I won't get a dog. to many problems. I said there are no
>>> problems with you stand up for your rights. Its educating the public. We
>>> had
>>> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
>>> Marilyn and Anna
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