[nagdu] going on a bus

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sat Nov 12 15:31:50 UTC 2011


That's why Holly doesn't like those seats!  And, not enough room down there!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus


> Another challenge with the front seats of the bus is that there are 
> tie-down restraints for wheelchairs. Both of my last two dogs got their 
> leg caught in the tie-down and injured themselves. My dog will generally 
> not sit in the front seats. Furthermore, though the front seats are 
> "reserved" for the disabled, there is no obligation for us to sit there. 
> If those seats are sie-facing because they are over the wheel well, there 
> is no room to scoot the dog underneath. Finally, if I sit sideways, I get 
> very motion sick, so choose to not sit there for my own comfort.
> fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus
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>
>> Marilyn,
>> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus?  Most 
>> certainly
>> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based on the 
>> fact
>> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more and more
>> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the bus where
>> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are not in
>> jeopardy of being stepped on.  Just curious about your experience with 
>> this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of marilyn
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
>> To: nagdu
>> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>> you had some experience on the bus. I have gone through that many times. 
>> The
>> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people. Why ?
>> because there is more room. Back in the 80's when I was commuting to the
>> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a bad
>> neighborhood to get to the train. A woman got on at a stop and saw me and
>> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the bus. She 
>> said
>> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation. The driver 
>> told
>> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not throwing 
>> me
>> off with my dog. I told the woman those people (meaning me) have more 
>> rights
>> to ride the bus than you do. your sighted you can drive a car I can't. I
>> don't have a choice. the driver was very nice and said he liked my come
>> back.
>> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were going on to
>> the NYC for the day. She was a cane user and I had my dog. On the train a
>> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog was 
>> evil. I
>> had Parker a black lab. He said black dogs are evil. I told him I was not
>> moving and he could go sit in another car. I told him my dog is a 
>> blessing
>> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is . the
>> conductor said he had a turban on his head. My friend was nervous and 
>> said
>> that is why I won't get a dog. to many problems. I said there are no
>> problems with you stand up for your rights. Its educating the public. We 
>> had
>> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
>> Marilyn and Anna
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