[nagdu] going on a bus

[rhonda cruz]

steve.
i agree.

rhonda and mya.
about the buses.


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net
>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:17:00 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>Larry,
>I find the same, and many times will use those seats if they are 
not
>occupied by a lift passenger to just slide my guide under them to 
keep her
>out of the way.  The curb-level buses are now the buses of choice 
for most
>transit agencies, and we find them very nice to use and easy to 
enter and
>exit.  In fact, the most forward seats on these buses are behind 
the front
>wheel-wells, so they are actually the ones I am describing.  Now, 
in the
>older model buses that still have steps, many times, these still 
have the
>seats right by the stair-well, which can create a potential 
blockage for
>passengers loading and unloading, and this is why I prefer to go 
back into
>the bus a bit to actually be out of the way to keep the aisle 
clear, but to
>also protect my dog.

>Steve


>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On Behalf
>Of Larry D.  Keeler
>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:03 AM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>I've found that if there is no strollers on our busses, the place 
where they

>go is great for dogs!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net
>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus


>> Marilyn,
>> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus?  Most 
certainly
>> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based 
on the
>> fact
>> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more 
and more
>> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the 
bus where
>> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are 
not in
>> jeopardy of being stepped on.  Just curious about your 
experience with
>> this.

>> Thanks,
>> Steve


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On Behalf
>> Of marilyn
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
>> To: nagdu
>> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus

>> Hi Sean,
>> you had some experience on the bus.  I have gone through that 
many times.
>> The
>> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people.  
Why ?
>> because there is more room.  Back in the 80's when I was 
commuting to the
>> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a 
bad
>> neighborhood to get to the train.  A woman got on at a stop and 
saw me and
>> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the 
bus.  She said
>> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation.  The 
driver
>> told
>> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not 
throwing me
>> off with my dog.  I told the woman those people (meaning me) 
have more
>> rights
>> to ride the bus than you do.  your sighted you can drive a car I 
can't.  I
>> don't have a choice.  the driver was very nice and said he liked 
my come
>> back.
>> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were 
going on to
>> the NYC for the day.  She was a cane user and I had my dog.  On 
the train a
>> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog 
was evil.

>> I
>> had Parker a black lab.  He said black dogs are evil.  I told 
him I was not
>> moving and he could go sit in another car.  I told him my dog is 
a blessing
>> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is .  
the
>> conductor said he had a turban on his head.  My friend was 
nervous and said
>> that is why I won't get a dog.  to many problems.  I said there 
are no
>> problems with you stand up for your rights.  Its educating the 
public.  We
>> had
>> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
>> Marilyn and Anna
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