[nagdu] going on a bus

Sat Nov 12 17:09:48 UTC 2011

larry.
mya slides under bus seets vary well.
but she likes parentransit buses better.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry D.  Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 10:30:32 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>Holly for some reason doesn't like to slide under bus seats here!  
She likes
>to stay out of the way and watch all of the passengers.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net
>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>> Larry,
>> I find the same, and many times will use those seats if they are 
not
>> occupied by a lift passenger to just slide my guide under them 
to keep her
>> out of the way.  The curb-level buses are now the buses of 
choice for most
>> transit agencies, and we find them very nice to use and easy to 
enter and
>> exit.  In fact, the most forward seats on these buses are behind 
the front
>> wheel-wells, so they are actually the ones I am describing.  
Now, in the
>> older model buses that still have steps, many times, these still 
have the
>> seats right by the stair-well, which can create a potential 
blockage for
>> passengers loading and unloading, and this is why I prefer to go 
back into
>> the bus a bit to actually be out of the way to keep the aisle 
clear, but
>> to
>> also protect my dog.

>> Steve

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On Behalf
>> Of Larry D.  Keeler
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>> I've found that if there is no strollers on our busses, the 
place where
>> they

>> go is great for dogs!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] going on a bus

>>> Marilyn,
>>> Why do you say there is more room in the front of the bus?  Most
>>> certainly
>>> it may depend on the buses, but my experience, and this is based 
on the
>>> fact
>>> that I use the bus multiple times a day, is that there is more 
and more
>>> appropriate seating for us with our guides in the middle of the 
bus where
>>> one can essential slide the dog under the seat to where they are 
not in
>>> jeopardy of being stepped on.  Just curious about your 
experience with
>>> this.

>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of marilyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:45 AM
>>> To: nagdu
>>> Subject: [nagdu] going on a bus

>>> Hi Sean,
>>> you had some experience on the bus.  I have gone through that 
many times.
>>> The
>>> drivers know the first two front seats are for disabled people.  
Why ?
>>> because there is more room.  Back in the 80's when I was 
commuting to the
>>> Helen Keller School to learn computer I had to take a bus in a 
bad
>>> neighborhood to get to the train.  A woman got on at a stop and 
saw me and
>>> started to scream about the dog and wanted me thrown off the 
bus.  She
>>> said
>>> those people shouldn't be allowed on public transportation.  The 
driver
>>> told
>>> her to step off the bus and wait for another one as he was not 
throwing
>>> me
>>> off with my dog.  I told the woman those people (meaning me) 
have more
>>> rights
>>> to ride the bus than you do.  your sighted you can drive a car I 
can't.  I
>>> don't have a choice.  the driver was very nice and said he liked 
my come
>>> back.
>>> Another time I was meeting a friend at a bus stop and we were 
going on to
>>> the NYC for the day.  She was a cane user and I had my dog.  On 
the train a
>>> man got on and asked me to sit in a different car because my dog 
was
>>> evil.

>>> I
>>> had Parker a black lab.  He said black dogs are evil.  I told 
him I was not
>>> moving and he could go sit in another car.  I told him my dog is 
a
>>> blessing
>>> from GOD and its dog backwards no matter what color my dog is .  
the
>>> conductor said he had a turban on his head.  My friend was 
nervous and
>>> said
>>> that is why I won't get a dog.  to many problems.  I said there 
are no
>>> problems with you stand up for your rights.  Its educating the 
public.  We
>>> had
>>> a wonderful time in the city with no problems.
>>> Marilyn and Anna
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