[nagdu] a blind consumer's Right toChooserehabtraining(federalregs)

[Tami Kinney]

Dave,

Sorry. Been there, done that. Twice. As my partner observed as we were 
walking to the car from the last meeting with the CAP attorney and the 
VR Director in addition to my VRC, "That attorney does a great job of 
representing her client, the agency, doesn't she?"

If CAP will not take my documentation and records pertinent to the facts 
of my case in order to ascertain my veracity over the VR Director's, 
then CAP is not working for me, is it?

Let's review how that system works: The Commission for the Blind is a 
state agency. The Client Assistance Project is a state agency. I am a 
blind consumer who wants one state agency to use state money for me, a 
blind person.

Should I have been surprised that the state agency paid by the state to 
ensure that I receive money from the state would be so blatant about 
whose interests they are really  serving? Should I have expected the one 
state agency to stand up for me against the state agency that was not 
giving me state resources?

Conflict of interest, much?

I dunno. Maybe that system works in other states. I have been completely 
unsurprised to discover in my information gathering that others have 
made the same observations about how it works here. The state agencies 
serve the interests of the state.

So I've tried the next step up the ladder, and the next and... Nada. SOrry.

Tami


On 11/11/2011 05:34 PM, David Andrews wrote:
> Each state has a "Client Assistance Project" contact them.
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:22 PM 11/11/2011, you wrote:
>> So what do you do, then, when you do your homework before you make
>> your first call and know what your needs are and formulate your
>> requests according to that in line with what the law and the policies
>> and procedures are and..And get nowhere. For years.
>>
>> What if you keep hearing that this is what happens to virtually
>> everyone you talk to.
>>
>> What if you learn that there is no recorse, that the agency is not
>> following the laws or the rules and regs because they don't actually
>> have to? Because there is no one to make them?
>>
>> Then where are you?And where are all your friends and acquaintances
>> and what do you tell them when they ask you what do do?
>>
>> Tami.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/2011 12:40 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> You don't march in, you ease in and tell your counsellor what you'd like
>>> to do and ask them how it can be accomplished.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right
>>> toChooserehabtraining(federalregs)
>>>
>>>
>>>> How is a blind consumer suposed to just march into their councilors
>>>> office, and tell him or her I want this or that? The councilor's know
>>>> these regulations back and forwards... They have excuses for
>>>> everything. Really this should be for the rehab councilor list. RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Criminal Justice Major
>>>> Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:39 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to
>>>> Chooserehabtraining(federalregs)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, larry,
>>>>> I'll agree with you on this one and leave it alone too.
>>>>> Since I don't know that much about those individuals, will leave it
>>>>> as that.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi and Odie
>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>
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