[nagdu] New guide dog school

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Sun Nov 20 17:43:00 UTC 2011


You've got that one right. *grin* My family has a border collie mix as a 
pet. No, not a collie, but their personalities are very close.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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> The only smatter dogs than poodles are collies.  And I think they're both 
> smarter than us!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
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>> Yeah, it is always fun to hear all about how untrainable poodles are, 
>> especially for guide work, when you're standing right there with your 
>> poodle guide. /lol/ Especially when you trained the poodle guide all by 
>> yourself. Um... Silly people!
>>
>> The key to training a poodle is to let the poodle train you inhow to 
>> train it. Then it's all good. /smile/
>>
>> If you want to succeed in the control-freak style of absolute submission 
>> and obedience, then you're going to be humilated in the course of failing 
>> miserably. The problem there would not be the poodle. Not that I have 
>> anopinion or anything. /grin/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 11/19/2011 07:25 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> Yah, Detroit had a school that just used dobermans and I hear that
>>> Seeing Eye only used Shepherds in the beginning. I like poodles and have
>>> heard many people still consider them untrainable! -- Original Message
>>> ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New guide dog school
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>>>
>>>> Each program can't be everything for everyone. If they all had labs,
>>>> trained in the same way, what would be the point of having more than
>>>> one program? It is setting the program apart as unique in some way
>>>> that attracts people.
>>>>
>>>> I'd really like a boxer, fed a premium food from puppyhood, trained
>>>> using positive methods, home based training, immediate ownership, no
>>>> yearly paperwork and no required
>>>> follow up. Unfortunately that doesn't exist. If I choose to get a
>>>> guide from a program I get to pick based on what they are offering,
>>>> not what I want them to offer.
>>>>
>>>> JMHO
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/19/2011 7:16 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>> I still don't see that as a good reason to not have labs. Someone
>>>>> might want a lab, and, for whatever reason, want to go there instead
>>>>> of the other schools. Also, I think that labs have the highest pass
>>>>> rate?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New guide dog school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll venture a guess that no labs is because she wants to do
>>>>>> something different, fill a need that isn't currently being filled.
>>>>>> If you want a lab for a guide, you have plenty of choices. If you
>>>>>> want a Doberman, Boxer, GSD or even a Golden Retriever you don't
>>>>>> have so many choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
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