[nagdu] canes was new member

Sat Oct 8 18:40:06 UTC 2011

Albert,

I don't know about others but I don't feel dependent on my cane.  And I 
sure don't have any emotional attachment to it.  At least not any more 
than I feel dependent or attached to my shoes.  they are nice shoes, but 
I can get another pair.  Would I walk around outside of my house without 
my shoes or cane, perhaps, but not very quickly, comfortably or confidently.

I can understand the theory of setting aside the cane before getting a 
dog, but in practice I don't think it works very well for what it's 
supposed to be achieving.

IMHO
Julie
On 10/8/2011 12:07 PM, Albert J Rizzi wrote:
> All,
>
> I also believe it has to do with separating ourselves from the dependency or
> reliance upon the cane. This further allows for a better bonding with the
> guide once introduced. In my personal experience the cane was set aside for
> the first two days prior to being given our guide. hope that sheds another
> perspective  on this requirement at the  schools. It is much like the
> requirement of not using a guide dog when at those retreats where only a
> cane is permitted during the day to day portion of  the programs run by the
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes was new member
>
> Julie,
>
> Yes, I agree orientation skills are important, but what I don't
> understand is why you need to demonstrate them without a cane.  It makes
> no sense to me.
>
> Julie.
>
> On 10/8/2011 10:22 AM, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>> Julie some schools do this  I think to see how well your orientation
>> skills are and to see if  you can problem solve and figure your way to
>> a certain place like to meals.  As you know we are always saying if
>> you do not have good orientation skills a dog can get you lost very
>> quickly if you don't know where you are going or how to get there
>> yourself.
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J."<julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes was new member
>>
>>
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> Why does it matter how well you get around without your cane?  I'm so
>>> confused and concerned.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>> On 10/7/2011 9:53 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>> tHEY DO IT AT pilot as well.  They do it to see how well you get
>>>> around without it.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Some one told me at south eastern, they make you put your
>>>>> cane up. Why do they have you do this? RJ
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Robertson"
>>>>> <srobertson at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users"<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to you RJ.My name is Sean Robertson, And I have a 4 year
>>>>>> old yello lab named Archie, He's my first dog. And I hope you like
>>>>>> it on the list.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 7:13 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, My name is RJ Sandefur, and I am a new member to this list.
>>>>>>> I'm applying to south eastern guide dogs. If any one has had any
>>>>>>> experience with this school good or bad, please share. So far,
>>>>>>> the staff person whose been assisting me has been helpful. RJ
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