[nagdu] Please stop and drop this.

Fri Oct 14 12:41:25 UTC 2011

Yes, guys, my question was meant for Hanah.
She mentioned being in the pipe to get a dog, then something changing and she was no longer in the same pipe.
There are many reasons for this.  I was trying to understand what was happening. There are good and not so good times to have a dog.  Generally, schools want people to get dogs.  There are occational school reps that are unrealistic, and then there are situations that just need to be explained so that the rep will understand your position.
I remember when I was getting my second dog the rep asked me if I "had plans to move in the six months after getting the dog".
I said "no" but then stated "If I land my dream job as margarita taster, or my dream house appears, I'm not going to say "Oh, I can't move, the dog won't like it".
He understood my point.

Had I said "um, I don't know, I might move, but then I might not, I'm just not sure"
The conversation could have gone very differently.

Also, personal choices can impact what a school will decide to do.  If you applied to get a dog, then say moved in with someone who happened to have an animal cruelty charge tied to their name, the school would look very closely at that.
So, I was trying to understand the situation to learn if we had someone who just didn't explain something properly, someone who had made a lifestyle choice that needed some explaining, or what exactly was going on.
No, you don't have to answer any questions, but if you don't ask, you don't answer, you won't get insight that may help.
This is assuming that you want help. You may not. That's okay too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:43 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Please stop and drop this.

Chantel,

Just to make sure you understand that you are not expected, required or
encouraged to answer anyone's questions on this list.  If you choose to
do so, okay and if you choose not to, okay.  Only post what you are
comfortable posting, nothing more.  This list is meant as a resource for
guide dog users who are also interested in NAGDU.  It is meant to be
friendly, and helpful, however sometimes it is difficult to determine
the meaning behind the words because there is no accompanying tone of
voice or laughter to tell us what is said is meant in a friendly way.  I
do my very best to ensure that we all get to share our ideas in our own
unique way without offending others.  I usually air on the side of
people mean well, it just came across bluntly.  I know in my own writing
I am often less than gentle.

Rebeka has asked questions, but it has been up to you to answer them.
Also to clarify, I believe that Rebeka's most recent request for
clarification was not directed at you, but to Hannah who originated the
topic.  Reading back through the message thread it wasn't clear, but it
is my belief that she was asking Hannah what changed that might affect
her application.

You haven't been on the list for very long, so you haven't had much
opportunity to get to know the folks here.  Each of us has a unique way
of communicating.  Some are more blunt, direct, while others are more
soft and suggestive in their approach.  I think it is one of the things
that makes this list such a great resource-all the various people, from
all sorts of backgrounds, with differing opinions.  They make me think
about things in ways I would never have on my own.  That has to be a
good thing!

If you should experience any more uncomfortable situations, I would
encourage you to ignore the message sender or send me a private message
at julielj at neb.rr.com and I will look into it.

Thanks!
Julie

HTH
Julie
NAGDU list moderator

> Sean and Julie,
> If I may, I  want to add something I forgot to add to my last post. A
> certain member of this list has tried to get in to my business twice
> now. I've had to divulge some things that I really didn't feel were
> appropriate for the list, just so that she could try to advise me of
> my decision.
> Guys, please, respect my boundaries. If I don't wish to discuss the
> answer to your question on list, please just drop it or write me off
> list at
> jawsgirl87 at gmail.com.
> Thanks all,
> Chantel.
>
> On 10/13/11, Julie J.<julielj at neb.rr.com>  wrote:
>> Sean,
>>
>> You are not the moderator of this list.  I have seen nothing from anyone
>> telling Chantel not to go to Pilot.  If I've missed something please let
>> me know.
>>
>> Julie
>> NAGDU list moderator
>> On 10/13/2011 5:36 PM, Sean Robertson wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone, Chantel was talking to me earlyer, And she was telling me
>>> that people are up setting her. If she want's to go to Pilot for her
>>> dog, Then she has that right. I for one am very prowd of her. There's
>>> menny schools that do guyde dog training. So please drop it. And let
>>> her do what she want's.
>>> windos messanger name is sean822 skype contacked sean8221
>>>
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