[nagdu] guide dog schools

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools

> Oh Hannah.  If you are an NFB member or for that matter not, you can go to
> WWW.nfb.org and look at the topic links.  They have all of the dog schools
> listed there with the numbers and addresses.  Thats where I found out 
> about
> Eye of the Pacific!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
>
> >I completely agree with all you've said Lea especially about the 
> >ownership
> > part. :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of Lea williams
> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:48 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
> >
> > Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages 
> > and
> > messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but this
> > thred
> > is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership thing my thoughts
> > on
> > it are these.
> >
> > I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their dog
> > as
> > soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner having
> > ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone seems to be a
> > good person to have a dog, and the school give them fullownership and 
> > they
> > go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed it, or whatever the case
> > might
> > be, the school would have a much harder time to take back the dog for 
> > it's
> > own safey. If you believe that you can be responciple enough to take 
> > care
> > of
> > the dog the correct way and maintain its health and training, then you
> > have
> > nothing to worry about.
> >
> > Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in to
> > them.
> > They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are some
> > very bad health issues.
> > They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the 
> > dog
> > and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
> > They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of
> > anyplace
> > else.
> > They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years 
> > to
> > insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing it's
> > training.
> > They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the
> > dogs.
> > Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete privacy, 
> > control
> > and want to be the one to go to the school for help, then I do not think
> > you
> > would like this school.
> > I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have 
> > heard
> > a
> > lot of good things threw other friends about this school and would like 
> > to
> > look in to them more myself.
> > All to their own.
> > If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone
> > checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then 
> > hey
> > you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to be 
> > spying
> > on you every day or something, they just want to know that you and your
> > dog
> > are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.
> >
> > Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but they
> > have
> > full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school can do 
> > about
> > it
> > now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and noone come rescue
> > them
> > like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes is being misstreated they
> > have a chance of being rescued,
> >
> > These are my thoughts and
> > my understanding that not all think like me.
> >
> > Lea williams
> >
> > On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> >> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills
> >> can be pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work
> >> with petco to offer discounts.
> >> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me
> >> in case something goes wrong with the dog.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
> >>
> >> Hi Hannah,
> >> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been
> >> there or are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with
> >> your vet to see if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My
> >> guide's vet costs annually for her major spring work up are usually
> >> pushing $400+.  The other thing is to see if they offer a reduced rate
> >> or discount to service dog users...many do.
> >> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at
> >> the idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for
> >> theBlind has a 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I
> >> personally find unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list is
> >> a big part of our independence, and the NAGDU continues to advocate
> >> hard to get all schools to grant ownership upon graduation.  Let me
> >> ask, that is if you feel comfortable in answering to the group, but
> >> why do you think you need to have a time period before ownership is
> > granted?  Curious minds want to know.
> >>
> >> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader
> >> Dogs.  I have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current President
> >> of the Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Hannah Chadwick
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> >> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of
> >> the States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also
> >> I'd want to attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of
> >> the dog, at least for now since I'm a college student. Being a college
> >> student, I will also need financial help from the guide dog school for
> >> vets. I'm not sure if this is asking for a lot or if there are any
> >> schools
> > that offer these things.
> >> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
> >> Thanks in advance, Hannah
> >>
> >>
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