[nagdu] guide dog schools

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sun Oct 16 11:14:38 UTC 2011 

I did find a link there underr topics.  It probably takes us to the other 
link.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
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>> Oh Hannah.  If you are an NFB member or for that matter not, you can go 
>> to
>> WWW.nfb.org and look at the topic links.  They have all of the dog 
>> schools
>> listed there with the numbers and addresses.  Thats where I found out 
>> about
>> Eye of the Pacific!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>>
>> >I completely agree with all you've said Lea especially about the 
>> >ownership
>> > part. :)
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> > Behalf
>> > Of Lea williams
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:48 PM
>> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>> >
>> > Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages 
>> > and
>> > messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but this
>> > thred
>> > is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership thing my 
>> > thoughts
>> > on
>> > it are these.
>> >
>> > I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their 
>> > dog
>> > as
>> > soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner having
>> > ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone seems to be 
>> > a
>> > good person to have a dog, and the school give them fullownership and 
>> > they
>> > go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed it, or whatever the case
>> > might
>> > be, the school would have a much harder time to take back the dog for 
>> > it's
>> > own safey. If you believe that you can be responciple enough to take 
>> > care
>> > of
>> > the dog the correct way and maintain its health and training, then you
>> > have
>> > nothing to worry about.
>> >
>> > Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in 
>> > to
>> > them.
>> > They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are 
>> > some
>> > very bad health issues.
>> > They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the 
>> > dog
>> > and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
>> > They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of
>> > anyplace
>> > else.
>> > They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years 
>> > to
>> > insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing it's
>> > training.
>> > They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the
>> > dogs.
>> > Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete privacy, 
>> > control
>> > and want to be the one to go to the school for help, then I do not 
>> > think
>> > you
>> > would like this school.
>> > I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have 
>> > heard
>> > a
>> > lot of good things threw other friends about this school and would like 
>> > to
>> > look in to them more myself.
>> > All to their own.
>> > If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone
>> > checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then 
>> > hey
>> > you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to be 
>> > spying
>> > on you every day or something, they just want to know that you and your
>> > dog
>> > are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.
>> >
>> > Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but they
>> > have
>> > full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school can do 
>> > about
>> > it
>> > now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and noone come rescue
>> > them
>> > like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes is being misstreated 
>> > they
>> > have a chance of being rescued,
>> >
>> > These are my thoughts and
>> > my understanding that not all think like me.
>> >
>> > Lea williams
>> >
>> > On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>> >> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills
>> >> can be pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work
>> >> with petco to offer discounts.
>> >> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me
>> >> in case something goes wrong with the dog.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
>> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>> >>
>> >> Hi Hannah,
>> >> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been
>> >> there or are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with
>> >> your vet to see if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My
>> >> guide's vet costs annually for her major spring work up are usually
>> >> pushing $400+.  The other thing is to see if they offer a reduced rate
>> >> or discount to service dog users...many do.
>> >> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at
>> >> the idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for
>> >> theBlind has a 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I
>> >> personally find unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list is
>> >> a big part of our independence, and the NAGDU continues to advocate
>> >> hard to get all schools to grant ownership upon graduation.  Let me
>> >> ask, that is if you feel comfortable in answering to the group, but
>> >> why do you think you need to have a time period before ownership is
>> > granted?  Curious minds want to know.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader
>> >> Dogs.  I have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current President
>> >> of the Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Hannah Chadwick
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
>> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> >> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of
>> >> the States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also
>> >> I'd want to attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of
>> >> the dog, at least for now since I'm a college student. Being a college
>> >> student, I will also need financial help from the guide dog school for
>> >> vets. I'm not sure if this is asking for a lot or if there are any
>> >> schools
>> > that offer these things.
>> >> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
>> >> Thanks in advance, Hannah
>> >>
>> >>
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