[nagdu] no result

Sun Oct 16 17:05:10 UTC 2011

This is also members at large, which is you are part of the NFB, but you 
don't belong to a chapter.

Leading the Way in Independent Travel!

Cheryl Echevarria
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result

> Sounds like a plan.  I didn't think that all the listers weren't also NFB
> members.  Also, I'm not even a current member as there is no chapter close
> enough to me although I have contact with the Beach Cities chapter in
> Carlsbad, CA.  I was an active member of NFB back in the late 90s until 
> 2001
> when our local chapter died for lack of interest.  San Diego has always 
> been
> an ACB territory - there's two chapters of that here but they really could
> merge to get a larger amoount of members.  But, it is what it is.
>
> Bibi, hopefully, this problem gets resolved favorably for you.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>
>
> > Bibi may not be part of the NFB Lyn. So we should be asking her to 
> > contact
> > her local NFB Chapter or we can give her the information in her state 
> > for
> > them.
> >
> > There are many on this list that comes to learn and listen, whether they
> > are guide dog users, puppy raisers, or sponsor a dog. So they may not be
> > part of the organization.
> >
> > The lists are free to anyone who needs to know more about us.
> >
> > So I am asking.
> >
> > Bibi, should you need the contact in your state for the President we can
> > get you that information, and that person, get you in touch with that
> > chapter president.
> >
> > Have a great day all.
> >
> >
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in
> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
> > Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >
> >
> >> Hi Bibi,
> >> Just for clarification:  Just what does Odie do for you if she isn't a
> >> guide
> >> dog?  Can you just use her as a guide dog and the apartment manager has
> >> no
> >> choice but to accept her presence?
> >>
> >> With the many years of folks abusing the ADA and what exactly is a
> >> service
> >> dog, they have now caused this problem that affects all of us in one 
> >> way
> >> or
> >> another.  You know, with people bringing their untrained pet dogs into
> >> public spaces and the dogs create problems with bad behavior.  I think
> >> most
> >> people are more confused about this than they were before the abuse of
> >> ADA.
> >> I'm glad that the ADA has finally changed its regulations but it should
> >> have
> >> been done years ago before all the problems got out of hand.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry you're having these problems.  Hey, where's your local NFB
> >> chapter
> >> and why don't they put their money where their mouth is and help you? 
> >> If
> >> your dog is TRAINED to do tasks for your disabilities, then you're
> >> covered
> >> by ADA, period and that apartment manager should be in trouble over it
> >> all.
> >>
> >> Lyn and Landon
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:30 AM
> >> Subject: [nagdu] no result
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi, all,
> >> > Service dog battle still continues on and there's no result as of 
> >> > yet.
> >> > When I spoke with the assistant manager, next response I got was that
> >> > CHAFA and some other founders of the apartment complex are now 
> >> > standing
> >> > by
> >> > the manager's side and stating that service dogs fall under the pet
> >> > rules,
> >> > which I stated before they don't go under there.
> >> > So, off to the Colorado Cross Disability Colision I go Monday with 
> >> > all
> >> > the
> >> > necessary appropriate paperwork I need to back myself up in the hopes 
> >> > I
> >> > can get further.
> >> > I immediately had a letter written by Doctor Jeremy Long which will 
> >> > be
> >> > out
> >> > in the mail and I'll have my hands on it.
> >> > I was so frustrated and angry yesterday afternoon, that I actually 
> >> > felt
> >> > as
> >> > if I wanted to just go downstairs and punch the apartment manager.
> >> > This would not have been the first time I felt the need to just 
> >> > destroy
> >> > her into many pieces.
> >> > It's happened before a couple years back and other times.
> >> > That didn't happen as I took the smart approach and immediately
> >> > contacted
> >> > the Outtpaitient Behavioral Services department at Denver Health
> >> > Medical
> >> > and ended up being connected to a crysis nurse who was able to help
> >> > talk
> >> > me through what was going on and happening.
> >> > Normally to do another intake if not seen at a particular clenic for 
> >> > a
> >> > long time can be three weeks out.
> >> > Scott the nurse felt that was too long for me to wait, so he's going 
> >> > to
> >> > try and push to get me in sooner.
> >> > I told him that a couple years back, I worked with Dr. Lowdermilk and
> >> > was
> >> > told that she permamently works there now.
> >> > Scott's hope is to be able to get me connected with DR. Lowdermilk so 
> >> > I
> >> > can get in or at least, she would be able to talk with me directly.
> >> > I wonder if it just may be me personally, but maybe others may go
> >> > through
> >> > similarities as me.
> >> > Do you have them moments of where you feel as if you're being mocho 
> >> > or
> >> > tough upon holding feelings back and it seems nothing is going to 
> >> > push
> >> > you
> >> > over the edge?
> >> > I guess for some time, I felt that I was in denial of this particular
> >> > situation bugging the creepers cheesers out of me and finally, it was
> >> > too
> >> > much.
> >> > I immediately went into melt down on the phone yesterday.
> >> > I started to feel in despair as I was losing an important battle not
> >> > just
> >> > for myself, but for other people with disabilities who have service
> >> > dogs
> >> > and important of all, guide dogs.
> >> > The big concern of why I was trying to hold everything back and stay 
> >> > as
> >> > calm as I could was to prevent a full blown severe asthma attack and
> >> > another convulsive grandmal seizure too.
> >> > Eventually, everything was going to have to come out, one way or the
> >> > other, despite a possible medical consequence.
> >> > I was told not to give up this battle and keep fighting for my 
> >> > rights,
> >> > but
> >> > also for others as well.
> >> > Will post more once I am able to meet with the Colorado cross
> >> > Disability
> >> > Colision on Monday and it won't be just them either that will get
> >> > another
> >> > update.
> >> > The Colorado Legal Aid Center for People with Disabilities and 
> >> > Elderly
> >> > People will get it too.
> >> > I am not going to give up on this and if I have to do this alone, it 
> >> > is
> >> > still going to be won.
> >> > *Smiles*
> >> > Bibi and Odie
> >> > the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
> >> >
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