[nagdu] no result

Sun Oct 16 16:55:02 UTC 2011

Sounds like a plan.  I didn't think that all the listers weren't also NFB 
members.  Also, I'm not even a current member as there is no chapter close 
enough to me although I have contact with the Beach Cities chapter in 
Carlsbad, CA.  I was an active member of NFB back in the late 90s until 2001 
when our local chapter died for lack of interest.  San Diego has always been 
an ACB territory - there's two chapters of that here but they really could 
merge to get a larger amoount of members.  But, it is what it is.

Bibi, hopefully, this problem gets resolved favorably for you.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result

> Bibi may not be part of the NFB Lyn. So we should be asking her to contact 
> her local NFB Chapter or we can give her the information in her state for 
> them.
>
> There are many on this list that comes to learn and listen, whether they 
> are guide dog users, puppy raisers, or sponsor a dog. So they may not be 
> part of the organization.
>
> The lists are free to anyone who needs to know more about us.
>
> So I am asking.
>
> Bibi, should you need the contact in your state for the President we can 
> get you that information, and that person, get you in touch with that 
> chapter president.
>
> Have a great day all.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>
>
>> Hi Bibi,
>> Just for clarification:  Just what does Odie do for you if she isn't a 
>> guide
>> dog?  Can you just use her as a guide dog and the apartment manager has 
>> no
>> choice but to accept her presence?
>>
>> With the many years of folks abusing the ADA and what exactly is a 
>> service
>> dog, they have now caused this problem that affects all of us in one way 
>> or
>> another.  You know, with people bringing their untrained pet dogs into
>> public spaces and the dogs create problems with bad behavior.  I think 
>> most
>> people are more confused about this than they were before the abuse of 
>> ADA.
>> I'm glad that the ADA has finally changed its regulations but it should 
>> have
>> been done years ago before all the problems got out of hand.
>>
>> I'm sorry you're having these problems.  Hey, where's your local NFB 
>> chapter
>> and why don't they put their money where their mouth is and help you?  If
>> your dog is TRAINED to do tasks for your disabilities, then you're 
>> covered
>> by ADA, period and that apartment manager should be in trouble over it 
>> all.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:30 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] no result
>>
>>
>> > Hi, all,
>> > Service dog battle still continues on and there's no result as of yet.
>> > When I spoke with the assistant manager, next response I got was that
>> > CHAFA and some other founders of the apartment complex are now standing 
>> > by
>> > the manager's side and stating that service dogs fall under the pet 
>> > rules,
>> > which I stated before they don't go under there.
>> > So, off to the Colorado Cross Disability Colision I go Monday with all 
>> > the
>> > necessary appropriate paperwork I need to back myself up in the hopes I
>> > can get further.
>> > I immediately had a letter written by Doctor Jeremy Long which will be 
>> > out
>> > in the mail and I'll have my hands on it.
>> > I was so frustrated and angry yesterday afternoon, that I actually felt 
>> > as
>> > if I wanted to just go downstairs and punch the apartment manager.
>> > This would not have been the first time I felt the need to just destroy
>> > her into many pieces.
>> > It's happened before a couple years back and other times.
>> > That didn't happen as I took the smart approach and immediately 
>> > contacted
>> > the Outtpaitient Behavioral Services department at Denver Health 
>> > Medical
>> > and ended up being connected to a crysis nurse who was able to help 
>> > talk
>> > me through what was going on and happening.
>> > Normally to do another intake if not seen at a particular clenic for a
>> > long time can be three weeks out.
>> > Scott the nurse felt that was too long for me to wait, so he's going to
>> > try and push to get me in sooner.
>> > I told him that a couple years back, I worked with Dr. Lowdermilk and 
>> > was
>> > told that she permamently works there now.
>> > Scott's hope is to be able to get me connected with DR. Lowdermilk so I
>> > can get in or at least, she would be able to talk with me directly.
>> > I wonder if it just may be me personally, but maybe others may go 
>> > through
>> > similarities as me.
>> > Do you have them moments of where you feel as if you're being mocho or
>> > tough upon holding feelings back and it seems nothing is going to push 
>> > you
>> > over the edge?
>> > I guess for some time, I felt that I was in denial of this particular
>> > situation bugging the creepers cheesers out of me and finally, it was 
>> > too
>> > much.
>> > I immediately went into melt down on the phone yesterday.
>> > I started to feel in despair as I was losing an important battle not 
>> > just
>> > for myself, but for other people with disabilities who have service 
>> > dogs
>> > and important of all, guide dogs.
>> > The big concern of why I was trying to hold everything back and stay as
>> > calm as I could was to prevent a full blown severe asthma attack and
>> > another convulsive grandmal seizure too.
>> > Eventually, everything was going to have to come out, one way or the
>> > other, despite a possible medical consequence.
>> > I was told not to give up this battle and keep fighting for my rights, 
>> > but
>> > also for others as well.
>> > Will post more once I am able to meet with the Colorado cross 
>> > Disability
>> > Colision on Monday and it won't be just them either that will get 
>> > another
>> > update.
>> > The Colorado Legal Aid Center for People with Disabilities and Elderly
>> > People will get it too.
>> > I am not going to give up on this and if I have to do this alone, it is
>> > still going to be won.
>> > *Smiles*
>> > Bibi and Odie
>> > the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>> >
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