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you are so welcome.

Leading the Way in Independent Travel!

Cheryl Echevarria
http://www.echevarriatravel.com
631-456-5394
reservations at echevarriatravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in 
Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, Inc.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result

> I only mentioned the NFB website because thats where I found the list of
> schools.  Thanks Cheryl for pointing other places where it can be found!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>
>
> > This is also members at large, which is you are part of the NFB, but you
> > don't belong to a chapter.
> >
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in
> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
> > Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >
> >
> >> Sounds like a plan.  I didn't think that all the listers weren't also 
> >> NFB
> >> members.  Also, I'm not even a current member as there is no chapter
> >> close
> >> enough to me although I have contact with the Beach Cities chapter in
> >> Carlsbad, CA.  I was an active member of NFB back in the late 90s until
> >> 2001
> >> when our local chapter died for lack of interest.  San Diego has always
> >> been
> >> an ACB territory - there's two chapters of that here but they really
> >> could
> >> merge to get a larger amoount of members.  But, it is what it is.
> >>
> >> Bibi, hopefully, this problem gets resolved favorably for you.
> >>
> >> Lyn and Landon
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:20 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>
> >>
> >> > Bibi may not be part of the NFB Lyn. So we should be asking her to
> >> > contact
> >> > her local NFB Chapter or we can give her the information in her state
> >> > for
> >> > them.
> >> >
> >> > There are many on this list that comes to learn and listen, whether
> >> > they
> >> > are guide dog users, puppy raisers, or sponsor a dog. So they may not
> >> > be
> >> > part of the organization.
> >> >
> >> > The lists are free to anyone who needs to know more about us.
> >> >
> >> > So I am asking.
> >> >
> >> > Bibi, should you need the contact in your state for the President we
> >> > can
> >> > get you that information, and that person, get you in touch with that
> >> > chapter president.
> >> >
> >> > Have a great day all.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >> >
> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >> > 631-456-5394
> >> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >> >
> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located
> >> > in
> >> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >> >
> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & 
> >> > Travel,
> >> > Inc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> >> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:00 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Bibi,
> >> >> Just for clarification:  Just what does Odie do for you if she isn't 
> >> >> a
> >> >> guide
> >> >> dog?  Can you just use her as a guide dog and the apartment manager
> >> >> has
> >> >> no
> >> >> choice but to accept her presence?
> >> >>
> >> >> With the many years of folks abusing the ADA and what exactly is a
> >> >> service
> >> >> dog, they have now caused this problem that affects all of us in one
> >> >> way
> >> >> or
> >> >> another.  You know, with people bringing their untrained pet dogs 
> >> >> into
> >> >> public spaces and the dogs create problems with bad behavior.  I 
> >> >> think
> >> >> most
> >> >> people are more confused about this than they were before the abuse 
> >> >> of
> >> >> ADA.
> >> >> I'm glad that the ADA has finally changed its regulations but it
> >> >> should
> >> >> have
> >> >> been done years ago before all the problems got out of hand.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sorry you're having these problems.  Hey, where's your local NFB
> >> >> chapter
> >> >> and why don't they put their money where their mouth is and help 
> >> >> you?
> >> >> If
> >> >> your dog is TRAINED to do tasks for your disabilities, then you're
> >> >> covered
> >> >> by ADA, period and that apartment manager should be in trouble over 
> >> >> it
> >> >> all.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lyn and Landon
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire" 
> >> >> <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> >> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:30 AM
> >> >> Subject: [nagdu] no result
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi, all,
> >> >> > Service dog battle still continues on and there's no result as of
> >> >> > yet.
> >> >> > When I spoke with the assistant manager, next response I got was
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > CHAFA and some other founders of the apartment complex are now
> >> >> > standing
> >> >> > by
> >> >> > the manager's side and stating that service dogs fall under the 
> >> >> > pet
> >> >> > rules,
> >> >> > which I stated before they don't go under there.
> >> >> > So, off to the Colorado Cross Disability Colision I go Monday with
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > necessary appropriate paperwork I need to back myself up in the
> >> >> > hopes I
> >> >> > can get further.
> >> >> > I immediately had a letter written by Doctor Jeremy Long which 
> >> >> > will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > out
> >> >> > in the mail and I'll have my hands on it.
> >> >> > I was so frustrated and angry yesterday afternoon, that I actually
> >> >> > felt
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > if I wanted to just go downstairs and punch the apartment manager.
> >> >> > This would not have been the first time I felt the need to just
> >> >> > destroy
> >> >> > her into many pieces.
> >> >> > It's happened before a couple years back and other times.
> >> >> > That didn't happen as I took the smart approach and immediately
> >> >> > contacted
> >> >> > the Outtpaitient Behavioral Services department at Denver Health
> >> >> > Medical
> >> >> > and ended up being connected to a crysis nurse who was able to 
> >> >> > help
> >> >> > talk
> >> >> > me through what was going on and happening.
> >> >> > Normally to do another intake if not seen at a particular clenic 
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > long time can be three weeks out.
> >> >> > Scott the nurse felt that was too long for me to wait, so he's 
> >> >> > going
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > try and push to get me in sooner.
> >> >> > I told him that a couple years back, I worked with Dr. Lowdermilk
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > told that she permamently works there now.
> >> >> > Scott's hope is to be able to get me connected with DR. Lowdermilk
> >> >> > so I
> >> >> > can get in or at least, she would be able to talk with me 
> >> >> > directly.
> >> >> > I wonder if it just may be me personally, but maybe others may go
> >> >> > through
> >> >> > similarities as me.
> >> >> > Do you have them moments of where you feel as if you're being 
> >> >> > mocho
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > tough upon holding feelings back and it seems nothing is going to
> >> >> > push
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > over the edge?
> >> >> > I guess for some time, I felt that I was in denial of this
> >> >> > particular
> >> >> > situation bugging the creepers cheesers out of me and finally, it
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > too
> >> >> > much.
> >> >> > I immediately went into melt down on the phone yesterday.
> >> >> > I started to feel in despair as I was losing an important battle 
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > for myself, but for other people with disabilities who have 
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > dogs
> >> >> > and important of all, guide dogs.
> >> >> > The big concern of why I was trying to hold everything back and 
> >> >> > stay
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > calm as I could was to prevent a full blown severe asthma attack 
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > another convulsive grandmal seizure too.
> >> >> > Eventually, everything was going to have to come out, one way or 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > other, despite a possible medical consequence.
> >> >> > I was told not to give up this battle and keep fighting for my
> >> >> > rights,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > also for others as well.
> >> >> > Will post more once I am able to meet with the Colorado cross
> >> >> > Disability
> >> >> > Colision on Monday and it won't be just them either that will get
> >> >> > another
> >> >> > update.
> >> >> > The Colorado Legal Aid Center for People with Disabilities and
> >> >> > Elderly
> >> >> > People will get it too.
> >> >> > I am not going to give up on this and if I have to do this alone, 
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > still going to be won.
> >> >> > *Smiles*
> >> >> > Bibi and Odie
> >> >> > the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
> >> >> >
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