[nagdu] guide dog schools

Mon Oct 17 13:10:35 UTC 2011

There is also a pretty exhaustive list of guide dog training programs around 
the worl on the NAGDU website. Go to

HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG

and click on "Guide Dog Training Programs".

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools

> Oh Hannah.  If you are an NFB member or for that matter not, you can go to 
> WWW.nfb.org and look at the topic links.  They have all of the dog schools 
> listed there with the numbers and addresses.  Thats where I found out 
> about Eye of the Pacific!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
>
>>I completely agree with all you've said Lea especially about the ownership
>> part. :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Lea williams
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:48 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>> Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages and
>> messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but this 
>> thred
>> is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership thing my thoughts 
>> on
>> it are these.
>>
>> I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their dog 
>> as
>> soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner having
>> ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone seems to be a
>> good person to have a dog, and the school give them fullownership and 
>> they
>> go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed it, or whatever the case 
>> might
>> be, the school would have a much harder time to take back the dog for 
>> it's
>> own safey. If you believe that you can be responciple enough to take care 
>> of
>> the dog the correct way and maintain its health and training, then you 
>> have
>> nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in to
>> them.
>> They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are some
>> very bad health issues.
>> They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the 
>> dog
>> and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
>> They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of 
>> anyplace
>> else.
>> They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years to
>> insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing it's
>> training.
>> They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the 
>> dogs.
>> Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete privacy, 
>> control
>> and want to be the one to go to the school for help, then I do not think 
>> you
>> would like this school.
>> I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have 
>> heard a
>> lot of good things threw other friends about this school and would like 
>> to
>> look in to them more myself.
>> All to their own.
>> If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone
>> checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then hey
>> you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to be 
>> spying
>> on you every day or something, they just want to know that you and your 
>> dog
>> are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.
>>
>> Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but they 
>> have
>> full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school can do about 
>> it
>> now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and noone come rescue 
>> them
>> like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes is being misstreated they
>> have a chance of being rescued,
>>
>> These are my thoughts and
>> my understanding that not all think like me.
>>
>> Lea williams
>>
>> On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills
>>> can be pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work
>>> with petco to offer discounts.
>>> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me
>>> in case something goes wrong with the dog.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>>
>>> Hi Hannah,
>>> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been
>>> there or are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with
>>> your vet to see if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My
>>> guide's vet costs annually for her major spring work up are usually
>>> pushing $400+.  The other thing is to see if they offer a reduced rate
>>> or discount to service dog users...many do.
>>> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at
>>> the idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for
>>> theBlind has a 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I
>>> personally find unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list is
>>> a big part of our independence, and the NAGDU continues to advocate
>>> hard to get all schools to grant ownership upon graduation.  Let me
>>> ask, that is if you feel comfortable in answering to the group, but
>>> why do you think you need to have a time period before ownership is
>> granted?  Curious minds want to know.
>>>
>>> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader
>>> Dogs.  I have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current President
>>> of the Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Hannah Chadwick
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of
>>> the States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also
>>> I'd want to attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of
>>> the dog, at least for now since I'm a college student. Being a college
>>> student, I will also need financial help from the guide dog school for
>>> vets. I'm not sure if this is asking for a lot or if there are any 
>>> schools
>> that offer these things.
>>> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
>>> Thanks in advance, Hannah
>>>
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