[nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened

Tami Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Mon Oct 31 21:39:27 UTC 2011 

Well, you are very right. It is up to them to make the best 
determination of how to meet the needs of the majority of their 
consumers with the resources they have for doing that. Better them than 
me, I say! So then it is up to me as a consumer to be happy with what 
they come up with or go somewhere else. /smile/

I still do find it interesting to ponder their end of the 
decision-making, though, as a sort of mental exercise in my free time... 
Sometimes I will gain more understanding of the business side of the 
guide dog programs that does make it make perfect sense. So I feel 
enlightened. /lol/ I don't need that particular enlightenment right now, 
but who knows? When I do go off to get a guide dog the good 
old-fashioned way, my understanding of the behind the scenes workings of 
the guide dog programs could come in real handy. And it will make me 
happier because I don't like not understanding stuff. I'm silly that way 
and will wonder about just about anything there is to be wondered about 
to keep myself entertained. /lol/

I do find it more usefully enlightening and pertinent to hear the 
musings of the other guide dog users on the list. I already know what my 
own wants and needs are and why and so on. I get a kick out of finding 
out how alike and yet how different we all are when it comes to our 
dogs. /grin/ Turns out we're not all clones, after all! /lol/

Tami


On 10/30/2011 07:35 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
> I don't think it is possible to make everyone happy. I, personally, have no problem with starting on Monday. It would seem odd at first, especially if they operate in the same format--You get there Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday through the morning they get to know you and do some lectures, Wednesday afternoon they let you meet your new partner and then they go on doing what they did before. When I went for that shortened time in 2008, I went on Saturday and came home on a Tuesday. This way I would go on a Monday and go home on Thursday. I don't have strong druthers about it really.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
> On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> That's what is so easy to forget when I'm scratching my head over some new thing or other the programs are doing that makes no sense to me at all from my point of view...
>>
>> They actually do need to think about how to do things in a way that will make everybody happy. Or that will, at the very least, work to accommodate the largest number of people. /grin/
>>
>> If the world would just get things straight and organize things around what would make me happy, I would be a lot happier. I'm just saying. /lol/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/2011 01:50 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> I too think that they could save days on the back end rather than the
>>> beginning. Also, how does this affect "dog day" and test driving the
>>> puppies? Does the schedule of the training change at all, or did they
>>> just shorten it by 2 days and keep the schedule the same? I understand
>>> the change, but more was not said than was said. I was fine with
>>> starting on Saturday and having that extra adjustment time, but I also
>>> understand the confluence of the person in a tight job situation.
>>> Personally, I would rather have seen the class lengths kept the same,
>>> and perhaps a shorter class schedule that could be offered to those
>>> that didn't want to stay as long. It's a complex issue all the way
>>> around and it's hard to satisfy everyone.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 10/30/11, Margo and Arrow<margo.downey at verizon.net>   wrote:
>>>> Oh, I think cost-cutting could be one of the reasons, but, students or I
>>>> should say, many students want shorter class times.  I'm not sure why they
>>>> chose Monday; am not sure why they chose to not have students show up on
>>>> saturday.  I think there could be a bunch of reasons.  Maybe staff want the
>>>> weekend off between classes.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to write to Dave Johnson and see if I can find out.
>>>>
>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steven Johnson"<blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Margo,
>>>>> Do you think it is a cost-savings measure?  Earlier weekday rates tend to
>>>>> be
>>>>> lower than weekend airfare, and this is the first reason that jumped out
>>>>> at
>>>>> me.  However, I am also going to make an assumption that finances are
>>>>> probably not a significant issue with the Eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Margo and Arrow
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:49 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be interesting to know the reasoning for starting on a week day
>>>>> versus weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sam Hogle"<smhogle at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. It makes sense to leave a few days early, as that would put you
>>>>> close to the begining of a work week. I thought about posting that on
>>>>> the TSE list, but let's just say that things are at the point where I'm
>>>>> not willing to get in the middle of these arguments. Based on how things
>>>>> are going with everything on there, I figure it is better to stay neutral.
>>>>> On 10/30/2011 10:23 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>>> I'm glad class is a little shorter, but I'm a bit annoyed that it's the
>>>>>> weekend they've cut off.  For me, arranging time off work is the hardest
>>>>>> part of getting ready for class.  I would be a lot happier if they'd
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> on Saturday and drop a couple workdays at the end.  Am I the only person
>>>>>> who feels this way?
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that there is just a little less down time. That was the length
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my last class; I thought it was more challenging, or invigorating.
>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Jewel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What effect, if any, will this have on the training sessions? It seems
>>>>>>>> it gives people less time to get acclimated to the area, but do people
>>>>>>>> need that extra time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Curious,
>>>>>>>> Jewel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/29/11, Margo and Arrow<margo.downey at verizon.net>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "The Seeing Eye, Inc."<noreply at seeingeye.org>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Margo Downey"<margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Seeing Eye Class Length Shortened
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Graduates,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At The Seeing Eye, we've always been committed to serving our students
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the best way possible. Over the years, many students have asked if it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be possible to have a shorter stay here in order to return to their
>>>>>>>>> friends,
>>>>>>>>> families, and jobs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In response, we've streamlined our training process in order to allow
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> students to get home as quickly as possible.  Starting with our first
>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>> in January, we will be able to reduce the time students spend on
>>>>>>>>> campus
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> two days. Instead of arriving Saturday, students will now arrive on
>>>>>>>>> Monday.
>>>>>>>>> This will enable you to return home in two fewer days - retraining
>>>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>>>> will stay for 18 days, and new students for 25 days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Information on the updated class dates for 2012 can be found at:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.SeeingEye.org/Schedule
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Johnson
>>>>>>>>> Director of Instruction&    Training
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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