[nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs

Dan Weiner dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
Thu Sep 1 01:36:58 UTC 2011 

So, Cindy, you're saying you see no benefits to having a dog other than the
fact that they cane requires  repetative motion and using a dog doesn’t?
.
None of us with dogs hasn't figured out that the cane can be put away in the
corner and so on.--smile

We use dogs because of the advantages...if I really thought there were just
no advantage I wouldn't have one.

But, to each his own.
Dan W.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:48 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs

Tatyana, you are a musician, too, yes? I saw you on another list a long time
ago.

Here's the deal. If you get well trained, you can travel about successfully
and freely with a cane. You can put that cane in the corner when you get
home and you don't have to worry about it any more until you are going out
again. If you have a dog, you have responsibilities for that dog. It needs
to be relieved, groomed, exercised, played with, and worked. If you love
dogs or think there is a chance you would, then the dog is rule a good plan.
I made the decision to use a dog because I was having some problems with my
hands. Using the dog would not be the same repetitive motion as the cane. I
loved caring for the dog way more than I loved working it, but I got over it
because I had some marvelous dogs in the time I have used dogs. Just don't
let yourself become overwhelmed with advice and question answers because
most likely you will be in training several weeks. Some of your questions
will be answered in that way; then as you have the dog and have questions,
you will be able to get information that will be more helpful to you because
of the experience you have had. Please don't think I'm trying to keep you
from asking questions, but I'm just saying, do be careful not to go into
information overload. If you love dogs and don't mind the responsibility of
one, then the responsibility won't be any kind of problem, and you will do
well with a dog. I do hope that if you decide to have one, you and your
teammate will have lots of happy trails together, and I am happy you are
anxious to get information as to what it means to have a dog.

Cindy

On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Tatyana wrote:

> Hi Maria  and all,
> To  your question,
> I'm originally from Russia and live in Maryland USA.  I followed my
husband
> who's Russian too. I didn't speak English  and it took time   and efforts
to
> learn  the language  and get used  to new life. It wasn't easy,
especially
> if you are blind and your communication skills double complicated  
> because of language barrier and blindness.  I had to work on my 
> mobility skills- they are not perfect though.  I was thinking about a 
> dog  perhaps it would give me more freedom and perhaps it  would 
> expand my friends circle as you were  networking and actually went  on 
> streets, get places that you think you'd never get yourself. Having a 
> dog as I feel a life decision like getting a new family member. My 
> sighted friends who have pets try to convince me that it's fun and not 
> too hard to have a dog.  I think before taking responsibility for a 
> dog that was trained and many great people were involved in its life , 
> from volunteers who raze the poppies  to trainers, I need to be sure 
> that I kno what I'm doing getting a dog. For canes and dogs, I'm not sure
how it's taught in Russian, I need to ask my friends there.
> 
> Hope to see you on the list
> Tatyana
> ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mária Orovcíková" 
> <maria.orovcikova at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:20 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Introduction Re: Canes With Dogs
> 
> 
>> Hi to all,
>> I am not sure if you remember me, but some of you might do as I have 
>> posted a message asking for help with a guide dog command which I 
>> needed for my thesys at that time. But it was quite a while ago 
>> (sometime last year or a bit more).
>> I am very sorry I haven't posted since, but I have been busy with 
>> school things . I've been still reading the list and I find it very
useful.
>> Before I write something about myself for those who don't know me 
>> yet, I would like to thank all of you for great help I got from you last
year.
>> So my name is Maria. I live in Slovakia (Central Europe). I have 
>> graduated from university last month. My major was English and 
>> special education for blind and visually impaired. I got a master degree.
>> I have a guide dog, her name is demi and she is a black labrador. We 
>> have been together for seven years. She does not help me only in 
>> guiding and orientation, but as I have a mild cerebral palsy and have 
>> balance problem sometimes, she is great helper in this case as well.
>> I have something to comment on Tatiana's post.
>> So Tatiana, if you do not mind me asking, where are you from?
>> This question just came on my mind as I have read your question about 
>> using a cane with a guide dog at the same time.
>> Here in my country, guide dog handlers are trained to use a guide dog 
>> and a cane together. It is not a regular cane, but just a short 
>> folding signalling cane like Larry has mentioned.
>> As far as I know, they train dogs that way in some other countries 
>> like Czech Republic for example.
>> If you have more questions regarding training guide dogs or anything, 
>> feel free to ask.
>> With regards
>> Maria
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler" 
>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:48 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Canes With Dogs
>> 
>> 
>>> The only thing I've seen is people with the short walking cane with
dogs.
>>> Tatyana, I see no need to use both at the same time although I keep 
>>> a cane in my backpack.  In case I want to run to the bathroom when 
>>> Holly is on a tiedown at the bowling ally or some such thing.
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