[nagdu] more Questions About accessing
Mária Orovcíková
maria.orovcikova at gmail.com
Sun Sep 4 09:39:51 UTC 2011
Hello to all,
please would it be somehow possible for anyone to explain hand signals?
Or where can I learn more about them? I mean hand signals description or
something.
Thank you in advance.
Maria
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] more Questions About accessing
> Janice,
>
> I broke my foot on July 20. It was in a cast for a bit but didn't heal
> right. So I had surgery August 12 to fix it. I have 17 more days in the
> current cast. Then there will be several weeks of physical therapy as I
> regain movement and gain a bit of muscle. At the end of all of that I
> will be able to put weight on the foot. I have no idea how long it will
> take before I can walk again or how well I will be able to walk. I get to
> start a bit of walking or trying in mid October. I'm hopeful that by
> Thanksgiving I will be well enough to go places independently again.
> That's only a guess and a hope though.
>
> I cannot leave my home without assistance, since there are steps up to my
> house. I can open the door to let Monty out, but can't accompany him in
> the backyard. My son takes him for walks, but Monty is getting absolutely
> no work. I suspect he'll need some refresher training when I'm ready to
> have him guide again. In the meantime I'm teaching him new things to help
> me in the house. The rest will have to sort itself out in time.
>
> Good luck with the retraining. She has to give over eventually. I hope
> your foot heals soon.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
>
> On 9/3/2011 3:50 PM, Janice Toothman wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> Join the club!. I broke my foot more than a month ago. I have been in a
>> "ski boot". I will be in it for another month because my foot is not
>> healing -I have osteoporosis. It has been difficult to keep Destiny's
>> skills up.
>>
>> Due to safety issues, GDF recommended that I retrain Destiny in her
>> breaking habits. It is not going well! She hasn't relieved herself in
>> close to 18 hours. I think it is going to be a long process. Every time
>> she doesn't perform by getting "busy" after in lengthen her leash and
>> stand at the curb and not move for 10 minutes; she is to be put on
>> tiedown for 15 minutes. It has been rough. She either sits or stands
>> except for once or twice she tried to go to get to the grass on on yard
>> and I had to correct her by saying "no" firmly (hopefully, it sounded
>> firm- I know I responded quickly but how my voice effective my voice
>> sounded I can't always tell because of my hearing impairment.)
>> Janice and Destiny (in Retraining)
>>
>>
>> On 9/3/2011 1:38 PM, Julie J. wrote:
>>> We'll see. I don't know how well or how fast I'll be able to walk once
>>> my broken foot heals. Right now I'm doing no walking! *smile*
>>> Hopefully I'll be able to work up to my old brisk pace.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>> On 9/3/2011 10:45 AM, Tatyana wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for the interesting notes. Keep on walking and self-confident
>>>> look make a deal
>>>>> I extremely rarely have access issues. Rarely am I even asked if
>>>>> Monty is a service/guide dog, which is perfectly legal for them to
>>>>> ask. On one occasion I was asked for ID, which is not legal for them
>>>>> to ask for. However many maybe all? of the guide dog programs issue ID
>>>>> to their graduates. So if you had particular difficulty with
>>>>> explaining access laws or did not feel comfortable advocating for
>>>>> yourself, you would have one of these cards to show.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay here are some things that I believe contribute to my very low
>>>>> incidence of access issues.
>>>>> I live in a very small town. Everyone knows everyone and I am the
>>>>> only blind person with a guide dog. They all know me, whether or not
>>>>> I know them *smile* and they know I'm the real thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monty is well groomed and well behaved. He is always an example of
>>>>> how a guide dog should behave. If he isn't I deal with it immediately
>>>>> and expediently. I am probably over sensitive about his behavior
>>>>> since I trained him.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not stop to discuss whether or not I am allowed in a particular
>>>>> public place. If a business owner starts in on asking questions I
>>>>> announce that he is a guide dog, smile, nod and keep on walking. I
>>>>> have never had anyone chase me down or talk to my back. In short, if
>>>>> you look like you have every right to be there, you must and they
>>>>> leave me alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monty is not a particularly cute and cuddly looking dog. He is large,
>>>>> powerful, black and doesn't enjoy visiting with strangers. We do not
>>>>> get a lot of unwanted attention from random people. Monty is not at
>>>>> all dangerous, but he's all business when he's in harness.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also know my rights and will not hesitate to explain them should the
>>>>> need arise. I am a confident person and carry myself that way, head
>>>>> up, looking straight ahead, calm expression etc. I walk at a quick
>>>>> pace, which I think people also view as confidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that helps you feel more at ease with possible access issues.
>>>>> They do come up and you will have to deal with them, but I'd about bet
>>>>> that if you never get a dog you'll likewise experience some sort of
>>>>> access issue. I think having a guide dog increases the amount of
>>>>> access discussions, but I think all blind people universally need to
>>>>> be prepared to advocate for ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2011 9:31 AM, Tatyana wrote:
>>>>>> Dear listers,
>>>>>> I would like to ask you some questions about accessing public
>>>>>> places .
>>>>>> When taxi drivers don't want your dog to get into a car, what excuse
>>>>>> do they
>>>>>> use?
>>>>>> What do ethnic restaurants greeters say when they don't let you in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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