[nagdu] barking was some advice

Sean Robertson srobertson at roadrunner.com
Tue Sep 13 19:39:15 UTC 2011


I'm finding with Archie, If people let hem get to know them. And if they say 
something as they come up to us. He's fine, It's when someone stardles hem. 
Then he barks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] barking was some advice


>I do have a dog that rarely barks.  My little Pez has only barked about 30 
>times in his 11 years with us.  He's a poodle-westie mix and very mellow. 
>I thaught he didn't know how to bark but I gues he just doesn't choose too! 
>holly drops a couple of barks at the door but quiets when I ask her to. 
>Sence Pez doesn't bark I kind of like that!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] barking was some advice
>
>
>> I'm of the opinion that dogs are dogs and should be allowed to bark in 
>> appropriate settings and in reasonable amounts.  Monty barks when anyone 
>> enters the yard but is expected to cease when I ask.  He is also allowed 
>> to bark pretty much at will in the back yard.  If I find it annoying I 
>> get him to quit.  I know some guide dogs never bark for any reason in any 
>> situation.  I can't imagine having a dog that didn't bark.  It's a 
>> totally foreign concept to me. *smile*
>>
>> Monty has never once barked while in harness since he has been fully 
>> trained.  I didn't specifically teach him this, it just developed with 
>> his settling into a responsible guide dog.  I have been asked on numerous 
>> occasions while I'm out and about if he ever barks.  I try not to laugh. 
>> If I know the person well I will usually invite them to my home so they 
>> can find out for themselves.
>>
>> For Monty work is work and play is play.  He does both with 110% effort! 
>> *smile*
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2011 9:47 AM, Dan Weiner wrote:
>>> Well, oh my God, adog barking, never heard of such a thing--smile.
>>>
>>> Well, if you need to live with them for whatever reason deal with it as 
>>> best
>>> you can but if it were me and I could, I'd get out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chantel Cuddemi
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> I actually changed her diaper once with some verbal prompting since I 
>>> hadn't
>>> done it before. The truth is, after Sean and Archie came to visit me 
>>> just a
>>> few weeks ago, they told me afterwords that because of how Archie barked 
>>> and
>>> scared Lola and because of the shedding, they don't want me living here 
>>> with
>>> a guide dog.
>>> Sean, I'm sorry for bringing this up on list but I had to tell the 
>>> others
>>> what was happening.
>>> Chantel.
>>>
>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>
>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>
>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> Because babies move around and so do dogs and you can't always predict 
>>> what
>>> they will do.
>>> The baby is her responsibility yes, but it sounds like she's letting you
>>> live there. And let's say your dog pees on the floor. While she should 
>>> tell
>>> you to get it cleaned up, let's say your in the shower. She's going to 
>>> clean
>>> up the mess so baby won't get in it. It's just what we moms do.
>>> Actually, the model of "Your responsibility and my responsibility" is 
>>> the
>>> problem. Everybody lives in the house, everybody takes care of each 
>>> other.
>>> Maybe that's the problem? I'd hope that if the baby needed to be held or 
>>> fed
>>> or a diaper change, you'd do that if mama was in the middle of 
>>> something.
>>> If not, well, the dog is not really the issue here.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> Well, the baby is her responsibility, and how would the baby get hurt.
>>> Anyway, I think that's a good decision on your part.
>>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lisa,
>>>> There is a baby in the house who is three months old.
>>>> She's going to start crawling soon and my friend doesn't want her to
>>>> get hurt. Plus, they don't want to deal with the shedding.
>>>> I've tried to explain that the dog would be my responsibility and that
>>>> I'd make sure nothing happened to the baby but I am not going to
>>>> bother trying anymore. She knows where I stand I know where she stnds 
>>>> so
>>> I'll move.
>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>>
>>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>>
>>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:07 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>>
>>>> Hi, chantel.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like a no win situation for you and the future dog.  It
>>>> sounds like they're not open to learning about dogs, let alone coming
>>>> to a compromise, so yes, as everyone else has said, it's time to find
>>>> another place to live and try to move on.  If this person is a good
>>>> friend,
>>> forcing
>>>> the issue might strain the situation further.
>>>>
>>>> How old are the "kids" who also voted to not have the dog in their 
>>>> house?
>>>> Are these adult children with children of their own who will be at the
>>> house
>>>> with you and your dog or are they minor children?  I guess this is
>>>> just a difference in parenting, but I wouldn't have been given the
>>>> option to have someone who was already living with us voted out of the
>>>> house because I didn't like something.  It sounds like your friend is
>>>> a bit apprehensive, and her children are just adding to the fears by
>>>> putting pressure on her about the thought of a nasty vicious dog in
>>>> her house.  And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the schools are happy to educate friends and family about a
>>>> dog,
>>> but
>>>> even in the best of circumstances, coming home with a new dog is
>>>> stressful enough without having to worry about how others in the house
>>>> will react to the dog.  And then there's the whole aspect of a new dog
>>>> learning the
>>> rules
>>>> with a new handler, and this can sometimes give people on the outside
>>>> the wrong ideas about how guide dogs should behave.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you can find a living situation that's more receptive to life
>>>> with
>>> a
>>>> dog.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems I have 3 personalities. One that has a plan, one that
>>>> completely screws up the plan, and one that says "what the hell
>>>> happened to the
>>> plan?"
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi"<jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] some advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
>>> convince
>>>>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
>>>>> future guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having
>>>>> one her at this house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chantel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>>>
>>>>>
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