[nagdu] Churches

Thu Apr 5 15:30:49 UTC 2012

The only probblem I have with that is that some folks might feel pressured 
into changing yather faith so that they can attend a house that will accept 
them.  Now, one could argue that they should know if there place of worship 
would allow dogs or not but many folks learn this after the fact.  Then, 
they may have to change the place of worship so that they can use there dog 
but really don't need to change.  For example, my church doesn''t mind 
Holly.  But, I have another friend who attends another church who maybe 
could get a dog.  If she does and her church won't let her worship there, I 
wouldn't necessarily want her to feel that she has to attend my church 
because its the only game in town.  I think that that kind of thing might 
cause latent resentment which is unneeded.  All religious establishments are 
taking it on the chin and oner less thing is always nice.  Finally, my 
upstairs neighbors are Islamic in faith.  They were worried and scared about 
both my dogs.  Well, they have socialized with me and have eben gave Holly 
and I a ride or two.  They still really don't want to touch the dogs but 
they will play with them and talk to them!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


>
>
> I am putting my 2 cents here! JMO.
> I am Jewish, I was also married to a Muslim, currently married to a 
> catholic.  So I have all religions in me.
> Plus, let us remember what weekend this is, Tomorrow is Good Friday and 
> the first night of Passover, so very wholly weekend for 90 percent of us.
> FYI, the only thing it says in the Koran, is that you cannot eat from the 
> same plate that a dog has eaten from.
> But, I realize that many of you have said, well I wont go to a church, 
> mosque, synagogue etc, if my dog isn't allowed to go there.
> Okay, that is fine.
> Remember though as how you say that, it is not that we are being rude, we 
> are asking you to respect our beliefs.
> Yes, the Muslims and some other religions do not want a dog in there house 
> of worship.  That is there right, in this country we have freedom of 
> religion, that is why many of our ancestors came to this country, 
> especially the Jewish people.
> But, again, but, if you want others to respect you, you must earn the 
> respect of others, blind, dog guides, religious beliefs, etc.
> Respect is not given it is earned.
> Now like yourselves, I am jewish, I don't go to temple, but I have friends 
> that do. If I am invited to go to there temple or church, I will ask if it 
> is okay to bring my dog, if they say no, I respect that, I will bring my 
> cane.  Your friend cannot control the rights in that church or temple.
> I am not going to stop being someones friend over it.
>
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>> From: margo.downey at verizon.net
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:55:16 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>
>> I have never had problems attending a Mormon church.  I'm not Mormon but
>> have Mormon friends and used to attend sometimes when I lived in 
>> Metairie,
>> Louisiana.  Never had a problem.
>>
>> I do know Mormons who have dog guides and there's no problem.
>>
>> margo and Arrow
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>
>>
>> >I am not sure you are correct about that, but I won't argue the point
>> >because in my experience no Mormons have ever rejected me on the grounds 
>> >of
>> >my dog, but then I can't remember if I have tried to attend one of their
>> >churches.
>> > CL
>> >
>> > On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cindy,
>> >> I may be in correct, but I also believe that those who practice the
>> >> Mormon
>> >> faith also have beliefs about dogs in the church.  If it is part of 
>> >> their
>> >> belief system, I do understand, recognize and appreciate this, but may
>> >> not
>> >> necessarily agree, but this is what their faith practices.  However,
>> >> those
>> >> other denoninations that don't have anything directly against dogs in
>> >> their
>> >> written beliefs, is concerning.  I would tend to believe that most
>> >> parishes
>> >> today, would warmly welcome new members to their family regardless of
>> >> anything...as afterall, isn't this in part what we are taught in most
>> >> churches to love everyone?
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Cindy Ray
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:16 PM
>> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>> >>
>> >> Well, Muslims regard dogs as unclean and so  you can't bring a dog 
>> >> into a
>> >> mosque.
>> >>
>> >>
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