[nagdu] Churches

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Thu Apr 5 16:44:26 UTC 2012


What do you mean "look up places?" This is a specific place I want to go; and if I were doing the third year of spiritual direction training, I would have to go there five times, so it would be a good thing for me to know now if I can bring the dog. I was surprised I thought to ask. LOL.

On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> Well, I don't know.  It would surely be easier to be able to look up places and see instead of arriving and getting the boot!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
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>> You don't want to have a "laundry list" of exempt places. There was a time in Kansas that zoos wanted to be exempt because of the possibility of dogs spreading disease and causing anxiety for the animals. We held that they should not be exempt because their reasoning was faulty, but we also said that to start such a list would suggest to more and more folks that they should be on it.
>> 
>> Cindy
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>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
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>>> Aggreed!  Maybe there should be a list of establishments that won't let dogs in under thois catagory so that when folks go for a dog they can find out whether they can expecdct to be able to continue to visit, worship or participate in the organizations.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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>>>> I don't think it's a loophole that churches are exempt from the ADA.  It is one of the founding principles of this country, the seperation of church and state.  I think it's truly sad that some churches have issues with guide dogs, but I absolutely oppose the idea of making laws that would take away that freedom.
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
>>>> On 1/14/2012 10:31 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>>>> well, personally, i don't think there should be ANY exemptions in the ada thet can allow that kind of discrimination
>>>>> maybe the NFB should start working on our elected officials to close all those loopholes
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