[nagdu] Churches

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Apr 5 16:57:00 UTC 2012


Sorry!  I was just thinking generally.  Obviously you are in communication 
with everyone involved.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


> What do you mean "look up places?" This is a specific place I want to go; 
> and if I were doing the third year of spiritual direction training, I 
> would have to go there five times, so it would be a good thing for me to 
> know now if I can bring the dog. I was surprised I thought to ask. LOL.
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> Well, I don't know.  It would surely be easier to be able to look up 
>> places and see instead of arriving and getting the boot!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>
>>
>>> You don't want to have a "laundry list" of exempt places. There was a 
>>> time in Kansas that zoos wanted to be exempt because of the possibility 
>>> of dogs spreading disease and causing anxiety for the animals. We held 
>>> that they should not be exempt because their reasoning was faulty, but 
>>> we also said that to start such a list would suggest to more and more 
>>> folks that they should be on it.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aggreed!  Maybe there should be a list of establishments that won't let 
>>>> dogs in under thois catagory so that when folks go for a dog they can 
>>>> find out whether they can expecdct to be able to continue to visit, 
>>>> worship or participate in the organizations.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's a loophole that churches are exempt from the ADA. 
>>>>> It is one of the founding principles of this country, the seperation 
>>>>> of church and state.  I think it's truly sad that some churches have 
>>>>> issues with guide dogs, but I absolutely oppose the idea of making 
>>>>> laws that would take away that freedom.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> On 1/14/2012 10:31 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>>>>> well, personally, i don't think there should be ANY exemptions in the 
>>>>>> ada thet can allow that kind of discrimination
>>>>>> maybe the NFB should start working on our elected officials to close 
>>>>>> all those loopholes
>>>>>>
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