[nagdu] Churches

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sun Apr 8 02:48:20 UTC 2012


I'm curious, which one was which?  You can write me offlist at 
lkeeler at comcast.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bertha Avila Guerrero" <guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


> Lyn, it was not an Assemblies of God Church.
> I am Assemblies of God. However, the closest Assemblies of God to me is 
> too
> far to get to on a Sunday. So I called a non-denominational and a Catholic
> church. They did not deny me access. One told me I would have to sit in 
> the
> foyer and the other told me I would have to sit in the back pew.
>
> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lyn Gwizdak
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>
> There's an Assemblies of God church up the street from me and they have
> several blind people and one of those used to have a guide dog - never a
> problem.  Matter of fact, their pastor helped my sister and me move to 
> where
> we live now and i did go to their Bible study for awhile.  The blind 
> people
> there are real active in their church community and treated with equality 
> to
> the other people there.  Their pastor is a former drug addict and he knows
> what it is like to be treated badly and he changed his life in a positive
> way.
>
> Are you saying that the Assemblies of God church near you isn't welcoming 
> to
> you?  that is a real shame if they're like that.
>
> To me, each church is made up of people and you have to find the group of
> people you want to spend time worshipping with.  Some are really good and
> some are really hypocritical.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bertha Avila Guerrero" <guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>
>
>> Cindy, I am Assemblies of God, but since I have not found a  home church 
>> I
>> called a non-denominational and even a Catholic church, just so we could
>> go
>> to an Easter Service.
>>
>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
>> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:11 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>
>> If you don't mind my asking, what denomination were these churches? The
>> only
>> place I've ever been denied admission with a dog is a mosque, and this
>> makes
>> sense.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Bertha Avila Guerrero wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> I know churches are the only places that can deny us access. I don't
>>> understand this since they have to follow ADA regulations for building
>>> accessibility.
>>> Anyway, I have been in Colorado a year and a half and have not yet
>>> found a home church. This has been difficult for me because I am used
>>> to be active in church. Well I decided Godiva and I needed to find an
>>> Easter service and the two churches I called were friendly enough and
>>> would not come out and say we would be denied access.
>>> But one told me we would have to sit in the foyer and the security
>>> guard would decide if we would be allowed in the sanctuary. Another
>>> church told me we would have to sit in the back pew. Needless to say I
>>> am very disappointed, and my heart hurts . I had no trouble attending
>>> church in Texas when I go back.
>>>
>>> Well I guess we won't be attending an Easter service.
>>>
>>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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