[nagdu] I need some advice/help

Tue Apr 10 23:38:57 UTC 2012

hi I believe she can mail the harness to the school free matter for the blind that is what I did when my 2nd dog passed away hope it works out ok Hal 

----- Original Message -----
From: Laurel <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
Date: Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 04:54:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help

>
>
> Good advice. I advised her to do that and I think she will. She
> doesn't wanna pay shipping to send the harness back to that part of
> the country, but she will if that's what she has to do to keep her dog
> from getting taken away. She just wanted me to ask for advice on her
> behalf, and I really appreciate you all helping out. I think she will
> subscribe to this list soon.
> Laurel and Stockard
> 
> On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> > Your friend should find out the date and the approximate time that they will
> > be coming to get the harness. When they come, she should have the dog in an
> > inner room in her house. Instead of letting them into her house to take the
> > harness, she can take it out to them. If the harness is all that they need,
> > then they don't need to be in her house. In any case, if they only need the
> > harness, then why are they coming to her house? Why can't she just mail them
> > the harness? Would your friend be willing to make a statement up front that
> > they may take the harness but not the dog, and, if they do, she will do
> > something about it? Also, even if she cannot find the paper that says that
> > she owns the dog, if this is something that is issued on a regular basis,
> > maybe just saying that she has one would help.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing Listeathe National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
> >
> >
> >ar No it's ok. I understand. I think the school didn't understand that
> >ar she is gonna place him. They finally told her that they won't
> >ar forceably take the dog today, but they've told her alot of things that
> >ar they renigged on and changed their minds about. They now say that they
> >ar will send a trainer out to get the harness, but my friend is worried
> >ar that when they get there, they will try and take the dog too. This
> >ar school has just been horrible about communication, support and they
> >ar say one thing and do another one so you never know what they are gonna
> >ar do. Basically, that was the situation with that. /smiles/ It's just
> >ar hard for me to explain the entire thing since it's my friend and not
> >ar me in this situation, but I'm trying the best I can to get her some
> >ar help.
> >ar Laurel and Stockard
> >ar
> >ar On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> >>> I am slightly confused. In your message you said:
> >>> "She has the ability to place the dog and wants to do so so that she can
> >>> keep in contact with her dog. She loves him and has a bond with him, he
> >>> just
> >>> can't work. The school basically said
> >>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
> >>> dog and rehome him."
> >>> This statement seems contradictory. If she can place him, then why are
> >>> they
> >>> coming to get him? Sorry, just confused.
> >>>
> >>> Nicole
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing Listeathe National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:58 PM
> >>> Subject: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I know I haven't been part of this list for long, but I need somebody
> >>>> to give me some advice on behalf of a friend of mine.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a friend who has a guide from a different school than me (I'm
> >>>> GDB). I obviously won't say what school my friend is from, but I am
> >>>> going to briefly detail her situation for you all.
> >>>>
> >>>> She has her third dog from this particular school. Her first dog made
> >>>> it 3 weeks into class before getting removed from the program due to
> >>>> aggressive growling. Her second dog barked aggressivley and she didn't
> >>>> get but a week with her. She went back to the same school about 4 or 5
> >>>> months later and was given a guide. This guide has been with her for 3
> >>>> years. He has numerous health problems with his stomach that make it
> >>>> not possible for him to work anymore. He also has issues with right
> >>>> side clearance while working and my friend has suffered many injuries
> >>>> while working this dog. This dog is a sweet dog, a good pet but not a
> >>>> good guide. She has over the years, and imparticularly the last 6
> >>>> months, tried desperately to get help from the school. The school has
> >>>> told her that she's on her own and can't be helped and they refuse to
> >>>> send a trainer out or help her in any way.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, to the meat of her problem. Her dog doesn't want to work anymore
> >>>> and is being retired. She has the ability to place the dog and wants
> >>>> to do so so that she can keep in contact with her dog. She loves him
> >>>> and has a bond with him, he just can't work. The school basically said
> >>>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
> >>>> dog and rehome him. They are not planning to inform his new home of
> >>>> any health issues he has or anything. My friend is very upset and
> >>>> doesn't want her dog to go back to this school considering the fact
> >>>> that they didn't care about him all this time and didn't attempt to
> >>>> rectify the situation at all. Is there anything my friend can do to
> >>>> keep the dog from getting taken by the school. Please don't get me
> >>>> wrong, my friend is a great handler. She was issued a dog that due to
> >>>> health and working issues should have never been issued. This
> >>>> situation is not her fault. Can anybody give me any legal advice etc
> >>>> to help with the situation. I'm willing to tell you who the school is
> >>>> and with my friend's permission discuss the situation in full with
> >>>> somebody, if it would help. If anybody could help me and my friend,
> >>>> please write me privately and let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you, and I apologize that this is so long.
> >>>> Laurel and Stockard
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nagdu mailing list
> >>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>>> nagdu:
> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nagdu mailing list
> >>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> nagdu:
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/laurel.stockard%40gmail.com
> >>>
> >ar
> >ar _______________________________________________
> >ar nagdu mailing list
> >ar nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >ar http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >ar To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >ar nagdu:
> >ar http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
> >ar
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nagdu mailing list
> > nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/laurel.stockard%40gmail.com
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nagdu mailing list
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/hleigland%40bresnan.net