[nagdu] I need some advice/help

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Tue Apr 10 23:52:44 UTC 2012


And, even if it cannot be shipped free matter, I would think that spending a 
little more money once would be a lot better than risking having the dog 
taken away.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help


> Good advice. I advised her to do that and I think she will. She
> doesn't wanna pay shipping to send the harness back to that part of
> the country, but she will if that's what she has to do to keep her dog
> from getting taken away. She just wanted me to ask for advice on her
> behalf, and I really appreciate you all helping out. I think she will
> subscribe to this list soon.
> Laurel and Stockard
>
> On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Your friend should find out the date and the approximate time that they 
>> will
>> be coming to get the harness. When they come, she should have the dog in 
>> an
>> inner room in her house. Instead of letting them into her house to take 
>> the
>> harness, she can take it out to them. If the harness is all that they 
>> need,
>> then they don't need to be in her house. In any case, if they only need 
>> the
>> harness, then why are they coming to her house? Why can't she just mail 
>> them
>> the harness? Would your friend be willing to make a statement up front 
>> that
>> they may take the harness but not the dog, and, if they do, she will do
>> something about it? Also, even if she cannot find the paper that says 
>> that
>> she owns the dog, if this is something that is issued on a regular basis,
>> maybe just saying that she has one would help.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
>>
>>
>>> No it's ok. I understand. I think the school didn't understand that
>>> she is gonna place him. They finally told her that they won't
>>> forceably take the dog today, but they've told her alot of things that
>>> they renigged on and changed their minds about. They now say that they
>>> will send a trainer out to get the harness, but my friend is worried
>>> that when they get there, they will try and take the dog too. This
>>> school has just been horrible about communication, support and they
>>> say one thing and do another one so you never know what they are gonna
>>> do. Basically, that was the situation with that. /smiles/ It's just
>>> hard for me to explain the entire thing since it's my friend and not
>>> me in this situation, but I'm trying the best I can to get her some
>>> help.
>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>
>>> On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am slightly confused. In your message you said:
>>>> "She has the ability to place the dog and wants to do so so that she 
>>>> can
>>>> keep in contact with her dog. She loves him and has a bond with him, he
>>>> just
>>>> can't work. The school basically said
>>>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
>>>> dog and rehome him."
>>>> This statement seems contradictory. If she can place him, then why are
>>>> they
>>>> coming to get him? Sorry, just confused.
>>>>
>>>> Nicole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:58 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I know I haven't been part of this list for long, but I need somebody
>>>>> to give me some advice on behalf of a friend of mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a friend who has a guide from a different school than me (I'm
>>>>> GDB). I obviously won't say what school my friend is from, but I am
>>>>> going to briefly detail her situation for you all.
>>>>>
>>>>> She has her third dog from this particular school. Her first dog made
>>>>> it 3 weeks into class before getting removed from the program due to
>>>>> aggressive growling. Her second dog barked aggressivley and she didn't
>>>>> get but a week with her. She went back to the same school about 4 or 5
>>>>> months later and was given a guide. This guide has been with her for 3
>>>>> years. He has numerous health problems with his stomach that make it
>>>>> not possible for him to work anymore. He also has issues with right
>>>>> side clearance while working and my friend has suffered many injuries
>>>>> while working this dog. This dog is a sweet dog, a good pet but not a
>>>>> good guide. She has over the years, and imparticularly the last 6
>>>>> months, tried desperately to get help from the school. The school has
>>>>> told her that she's on her own and can't be helped and they refuse to
>>>>> send a trainer out or help her in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, to the meat of her problem. Her dog doesn't want to work anymore
>>>>> and is being retired. She has the ability to place the dog and wants
>>>>> to do so so that she can keep in contact with her dog. She loves him
>>>>> and has a bond with him, he just can't work. The school basically said
>>>>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
>>>>> dog and rehome him. They are not planning to inform his new home of
>>>>> any health issues he has or anything. My friend is very upset and
>>>>> doesn't want her dog to go back to this school considering the fact
>>>>> that they didn't care about him all this time and didn't attempt to
>>>>> rectify the situation at all. Is there anything my friend can do to
>>>>> keep the dog from getting taken by the school. Please don't get me
>>>>> wrong, my friend is a great handler. She was issued a dog that due to
>>>>> health and working issues should have never been issued. This
>>>>> situation is not her fault. Can anybody give me any legal advice etc
>>>>> to help with the situation. I'm willing to tell you who the school is
>>>>> and with my friend's permission discuss the situation in full with
>>>>> somebody, if it would help. If anybody could help me and my friend,
>>>>> please write me privately and let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, and I apologize that this is so long.
>>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>>
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