[nagdu] Tell the whole truth

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Apr 11 15:51:53 UTC 2012


I aggree Marsha!  But, in the interest of learning, it sure would be nice to 
learn what school is still doing this!  Also, if the school is a good one, 
maybe they don't realize what kind of dogs are coming out of they're 
training program!  Or, maybe they don't care!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tell the whole truth


> Tracy,
>
> I think a lot of us would like the same. The good and bad about a school 
> to
> be aired out. The problem with this is that, not all people can give good
> and bad with out being defensive about it, thus being very emotional about
> it. There are those guide dog users who are very very loyal to their 
> school,
> and will not admit that their school does any wrong.
>
> I am going to keep an eye on this thread, as much as I would like to say
> that we should talk about the bad and the good, I do not want this list to
> become a bashing school list. So if we are going to discuss the good and
> bad, people MUST be adults. I reserve the right to come in and stop this
> thread at any point.
>
> So discuss away...
> Marsha, Moderator
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:32 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Tell the whole truth
>
> Laurel, just as an example,  says she doesn't want to do school bashing,
> and I think many people feel this way, but, if people only give the
> positive parts of their experience with a school, and none of the
> negatives, it doesn't give a true picture.  If I were looking for a
> training program, I'd want to know about bad experiences, as well as good.
> For example, if more than a few people from school X end up returning the
> dog in less than 2 years, I'd want to know about that.  If several days of
> training were spent hanging around the mall, I'd want to know that, too.
> It was part of what I really liked about Gary's writing about his school
> experience--he wrote about the annoying stuff, as well as the good.
> I'm not interested in what happened to so-and-so 10 years ago.  I'm not
> much interested in hearsay, either.  "A friend of a friend...", nah.
> I understand the desire not to air dirty laundry in public; I really do.
> But, in its darkest aspect, that's how abuse goes on--no one wants to say
> anything about it. Not that I'm accusing any school of abusing students;
> it's just one end of a continuum.
> If someone has had a bad experience, I have no problem with them naming
> names.  I don't think that's bashing; it's just letting other know so they
> can make informed decisions.
> And, if someone has something negative to say about my beloved school, I
> promise to take a deep breath, not get defensive, and consider what
> they've said.
> JMHO.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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