[nagdu] walking in to objects

Sun Apr 15 12:47:52 UTC 2012

 hanna,
 how does princess do with traffic checks?
 just wondering.

On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Julie J. wrote:

> Hannah,
> 
> Can you set up obstacles to practice going around?  When I was training both Belle and Monty I did this.  I picked things like an empty plastic trash can, a jacket dropped on the sidewalk, or a trash bag full of leaves.  I'd place them so I would know where they were and could praise Monty for going around.  If he didn't the object was the sort that I wouldn't be injured by running into it.  Although the empty trash can does make a load of noise, which goes a long way in reinforcing the concept to the dog.
> 
> If the underlying problem is simply that she needs more practice or more training this should help.  If the problem is something more serious this approach probably won't make any difference.
> 
> All my best,
> Julie
> On 4/14/2012 7:52 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> Nicole,
>> My trainer usually yells at me to "stop" before Princess walks me in to
>> something. The rest of the people who have been telling me to "give it more
>> time" has not seen her do it though.
>> It seems like it's been happening every couple of weeks or so although it's
>> still pretty random.
>> We are bonding super well, and I know we will become a great team, however
>> I'm not sure what to do at this point because I don't know if this will ever
>> improve since the corrections don't seem to matter to her, and I don't want
>> to get seriously hurt at some point.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:35 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>> 
>> Has this trainer seen Princess bump you into things? Have any of the people
>> who keep telling you to give it time seen Princess bump you into things? Is
>> this a somewhat predictable behavior, or does it just happen at random?
>> 
>> Nicole
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>> 
>> 
>>> Rhonda,
>>> I'm not sure that can happen because I'm so far from Ohio, but they might
>>> let me go back to training. As I've mentioned before, I am working with a
>>> professional dog trainer right now and I'm not sure what else a trainer
>>> from
>>> Pilot could do.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of rhonda cruz
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:05 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>> 
>>> i think you should ask or a trainer. to come out, and work with you,
>>> hanna,
>>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Juanita,
>>>> It only happened a couple of times during training. I believe that is
>>>> mostly due to walking the same rout over and over again when the dogs
>>>> were being trained. However, I want to travel and I can't have a dog
>>>> that will walk me in to things every new place I go.
>>>> Hugs, Hannah
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>> When I first got Anise, she had trouble clearing the right side so at
>>>> first I'd brush up against things, but correcting her firmly helped a
>>>> lot. Also, I only had Anise for 9 days before I went home. My
>>>> instructor said that if she didn't get better at clearing the right
>>>> side they would not send her home with me. I was terrified I might
>>>> have to go back to class. However, by the fifth day my instructor and
>>>> I began to notice significant improvement. They told me that they were
>>>> afraid I wasn't going to be able to take her home, but thankfully it
>>>> all worked out. My question is, if this was occurring during training,
>>>> why did they send her home? I mean, this can turn into a dangerous
>>> situation, and your life can be at potential risk.
>>>> Take Care,
>>>> Juanita
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/13/12, Hannah Chadwick<sparklylicious at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be a
>>>>> guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things and
>>>>> told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things should
>>>>> not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't know
>>>>>> what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her is
>>>>>> enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on a
>>> tour.
>>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted
>>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I
>>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a
>>>>>> horrible
>>>> feeling.
>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>> 
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