[nagdu] walking in to objects

Hannah Chadwick sparklylicious at gmail.com
Sun Apr 15 16:14:45 UTC 2012 

Rhonda,
I'm not sure. Does Pilot train them to do traffic checks? We haven't come
across any cars that are in our way it seems like...

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of rhonda cruz
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:48 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

 hanna,
 how does princess do with traffic checks?
 just wondering.

On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Julie J. wrote:

> Hannah,
> 
> Can you set up obstacles to practice going around?  When I was training
both Belle and Monty I did this.  I picked things like an empty plastic
trash can, a jacket dropped on the sidewalk, or a trash bag full of leaves.
I'd place them so I would know where they were and could praise Monty for
going around.  If he didn't the object was the sort that I wouldn't be
injured by running into it.  Although the empty trash can does make a load
of noise, which goes a long way in reinforcing the concept to the dog.
> 
> If the underlying problem is simply that she needs more practice or more
training this should help.  If the problem is something more serious this
approach probably won't make any difference.
> 
> All my best,
> Julie
> On 4/14/2012 7:52 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> Nicole,
>> My trainer usually yells at me to "stop" before Princess walks me in 
>> to something. The rest of the people who have been telling me to 
>> "give it more time" has not seen her do it though.
>> It seems like it's been happening every couple of weeks or so 
>> although it's still pretty random.
>> We are bonding super well, and I know we will become a great team, 
>> however I'm not sure what to do at this point because I don't know if 
>> this will ever improve since the corrections don't seem to matter to 
>> her, and I don't want to get seriously hurt at some point.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:35 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>> 
>> Has this trainer seen Princess bump you into things? Have any of the 
>> people who keep telling you to give it time seen Princess bump you 
>> into things? Is this a somewhat predictable behavior, or does it just
happen at random?
>> 
>> Nicole
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>> 
>> 
>>> Rhonda,
>>> I'm not sure that can happen because I'm so far from Ohio, but they 
>>> might let me go back to training. As I've mentioned before, I am 
>>> working with a professional dog trainer right now and I'm not sure 
>>> what else a trainer from Pilot could do.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of rhonda cruz
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:05 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>> 
>>> i think you should ask or a trainer. to come out, and work with you, 
>>> hanna,
>>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Juanita,
>>>> It only happened a couple of times during training. I believe that 
>>>> is mostly due to walking the same rout over and over again when the 
>>>> dogs were being trained. However, I want to travel and I can't have 
>>>> a dog that will walk me in to things every new place I go.
>>>> Hugs, Hannah
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>> When I first got Anise, she had trouble clearing the right side so 
>>>> at first I'd brush up against things, but correcting her firmly 
>>>> helped a lot. Also, I only had Anise for 9 days before I went home. 
>>>> My instructor said that if she didn't get better at clearing the 
>>>> right side they would not send her home with me. I was terrified I 
>>>> might have to go back to class. However, by the fifth day my 
>>>> instructor and I began to notice significant improvement. They told 
>>>> me that they were afraid I wasn't going to be able to take her 
>>>> home, but thankfully it all worked out. My question is, if this was 
>>>> occurring during training, why did they send her home? I mean, this 
>>>> can turn into a dangerous
>>> situation, and your life can be at potential risk.
>>>> Take Care,
>>>> Juanita
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/13/12, Hannah Chadwick<sparklylicious at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to 
>>>>> be a guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few 
>>>>> things and told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to 
>>>>> things should not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that 
>>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't 
>>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her 
>>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on 
>>>>>> a
>>> tour.
>>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I 
>>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted 
>>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I 
>>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a 
>>>>>> horrible
>>>> feeling.
>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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