[nagdu] walking in to objects

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Sun Apr 15 17:23:35 UTC 2012 

 yep.
 i was learned that also.
 but a traffic  check, is when a car pulls out in front.

 and .


On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> What's a traffic check?  Pilot teaches us how to keep of traffic ourselves. But, the dogs won't move if you think its time ti go and they see something you don't.  Also, they will take you around the cars idling at the light.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
> 
> 
>> Rhonda,
>> I'm not sure. Does Pilot train them to do traffic checks? We haven't come
>> across any cars that are in our way it seems like...
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of rhonda cruz
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:48 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>> 
>> hanna,
>> how does princess do with traffic checks?
>> just wondering.
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hannah,
>>> 
>>> Can you set up obstacles to practice going around?  When I was training
>> both Belle and Monty I did this.  I picked things like an empty plastic
>> trash can, a jacket dropped on the sidewalk, or a trash bag full of leaves.
>> I'd place them so I would know where they were and could praise Monty for
>> going around.  If he didn't the object was the sort that I wouldn't be
>> injured by running into it.  Although the empty trash can does make a load
>> of noise, which goes a long way in reinforcing the concept to the dog.
>>> 
>>> If the underlying problem is simply that she needs more practice or more
>> training this should help.  If the problem is something more serious this
>> approach probably won't make any difference.
>>> 
>>> All my best,
>>> Julie
>>> On 4/14/2012 7:52 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>> Nicole,
>>>> My trainer usually yells at me to "stop" before Princess walks me in
>>>> to something. The rest of the people who have been telling me to
>>>> "give it more time" has not seen her do it though.
>>>> It seems like it's been happening every couple of weeks or so
>>>> although it's still pretty random.
>>>> We are bonding super well, and I know we will become a great team,
>>>> however I'm not sure what to do at this point because I don't know if
>>>> this will ever improve since the corrections don't seem to matter to
>>>> her, and I don't want to get seriously hurt at some point.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:35 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>> 
>>>> Has this trainer seen Princess bump you into things? Have any of the
>>>> people who keep telling you to give it time seen Princess bump you
>>>> into things? Is this a somewhat predictable behavior, or does it just
>> happen at random?
>>>> 
>>>> Nicole
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Rhonda,
>>>>> I'm not sure that can happen because I'm so far from Ohio, but they
>>>>> might let me go back to training. As I've mentioned before, I am
>>>>> working with a professional dog trainer right now and I'm not sure
>>>>> what else a trainer from Pilot could do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of rhonda cruz
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:05 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>> 
>>>>> i think you should ask or a trainer. to come out, and work with you,
>>>>> hanna,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Juanita,
>>>>>> It only happened a couple of times during training. I believe that
>>>>>> is mostly due to walking the same rout over and over again when the
>>>>>> dogs were being trained. However, I want to travel and I can't have
>>>>>> a dog that will walk me in to things every new place I go.
>>>>>> Hugs, Hannah
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>>> When I first got Anise, she had trouble clearing the right side so
>>>>>> at first I'd brush up against things, but correcting her firmly
>>>>>> helped a lot. Also, I only had Anise for 9 days before I went home.
>>>>>> My instructor said that if she didn't get better at clearing the
>>>>>> right side they would not send her home with me. I was terrified I
>>>>>> might have to go back to class. However, by the fifth day my
>>>>>> instructor and I began to notice significant improvement. They told
>>>>>> me that they were afraid I wasn't going to be able to take her
>>>>>> home, but thankfully it all worked out. My question is, if this was
>>>>>> occurring during training, why did they send her home? I mean, this
>>>>>> can turn into a dangerous
>>>>> situation, and your life can be at potential risk.
>>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>>> Juanita
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/13/12, Hannah Chadwick<sparklylicious at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to
>>>>>>> be a guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few
>>>>>>> things and told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to
>>>>>>> things should not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>>>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't
>>>>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her
>>>>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>> tour.
>>>>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>>>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted
>>>>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I
>>>>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a
>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>> feeling.
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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