[nagdu] Tell the whole truth

[Natalie]

Hi Laurel,
I figured it was SEGD.  Another handler on another guide dog list I'm on has 
expressed some serious concerns regarding her own personal experience with 
that school.  My experience with GDA has been awesome through two great 
dogs; with GDB, not as much, but that experience was more of a disagreement 
with policy, instead of the dog and my partnership with her.  I treasure all 
my experiences with all three of my dogs, and I'd never trade them for the 
world.  In talking about and naming specific schools, I prefer to state that 
this is my experience or what I've heard.  This way there's no room for 
misinterpretation regarding how good or bad the school is as a whole.  I can 
certainly understand how traumatizing your friend must feel.  Though I've 
been lucky in never having had a compatibility issue with any of my guides, 
I know that it could happen to anyone at any time.  I hope your friend will 
choose to get a furry set of eyeballs at some point, and please let her know 
I'm praying for her.  If you want any information on GDA and its training 
policy, please don't hesitate to ask offlist or on, wherever you may feel 
comfortable.  I'm happy to share.  Take care.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurel" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tell the whole truth


> Well, I don't mind telling you all the name of the school. I just
> wanted to be careful when I first posted here because I didn't wanna
> start a "school war" or you know make people get all mad and defensive
> or anything. My main concern was helping my friend. It's going to work
> out fine with her by the way. The school that my friend was having the
> problems with was Southeastern. I want you all to know that I
> personally don't know much about them and don't have a problem with
> them, I can't really judge southeastern seeing as I have never had a
> guide from there. Also, please know that my previous messages I tried
> to leave my opinion out of it, I just tried to relay my friends issues
> and what she told me. Personally, I'm sad that this happened to my
> friend and it's unfortunate that Southeastern couldn't have dealt
> better with it. I learned a little more about the situation yesterday,
> and lets just say they lied to my friend regarding some issues with
> her dog. I'm not going to go into the details, but suffice to say she
> has been traumatized.
>
> I think it's good too if we talk about the negatives of a school, in a
> respectful manner, as well as the positives. I also know there's a
> fine line between discussing the negatives and bashing a school, and I
> just wanted to be on the careful side, especially since I haven't been
> on this list long, I didn't want anybody to mistake my messages as
> school bashing.
>
> I really appreciate these discussions and everybody's imput especially
> with my friend, we have found it helpful for sure and she will soon
> join this list.
>
> Sorry, I know this is really lengthy. /smiles/
> Laurel and Stockard
>
> On 4/11/12, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>> And sometimes it might not be an issue necessarily with the school but 
>> with
>> the student.  For example, we had a student in our class whom I really 
>> hope
>> didn't get her dog.  She was in for a retrain 4 months after she got her
>> first dog.  They gave her a second.  SShe would poo-poo everything the
>> trainer said and sleep all day and skip training sessions.  She gave the 
>> dog
>> attention only when she wanted to play with it!  Well, I sure hope the
>> school kept track of what she did with the dog if she got him at all! 
>> Just
>> noting that I learned well and passed with Holly with little effort. 
>> Some
>> students may develop resentments or the schools may not get a good 
>> feeling
>> about a student iether.  I thaught my trainer was great!  Most of us did
>> but, maybe 2 or 3 may not have felt that way!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tell the whole truth
>>
>>
>>>i agree whole heartedly, i want to know both the good and bad even if its
>>>about my school
>>>
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