[nagdu] walking in to objects

Fri Apr 20 18:43:02 UTC 2012

Tracy, I agree with you, but if there is something wrong then maybe
once it is figured out then the issue could be fixed. It  might be a
behavior issue, or it might just be a medical one.
I would feel aweful if I gave up on my dog so quickly when it wasn't a
lack of training but something that was fixible once figured out.
I also think that Hanna is really wanting this to work out and doesn't
want to give up on Prinsess so quickly, I think that Hanna will do her
best to try to fix this issue with her guide before just throwing in
the towl. I see Hanna as a fighter and doesn't give up, she is going
to go really far in life with that attidute. I also believe that Hanna
will know when it is time to give up if the problems are not able to
be resolved.
I hope you figure things out Hanna. It might just be time that she
needs, or maybe not. You are the best person to decide what you should
do next. I hope we have all been able to help you and anyone else. I
know I will be coming here to once I get my dog and I hope I get as
good of a support like Hanna has.

On 4/20/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
> Very good.
> Schedule a thyroid check while you're on that bandwagon.
> And make Pilot respond to you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Hannah Chadwick
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> Rebecca,
> I just registered for the free service animal eye exam and she'll get
> checked out in the middle of May.
> I seriously need to call Pilot because they aren't answering my emails.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:56 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
>         Have you had the vet do a thyroid check and a doggy opthomologist
> check her vision?
>
> Your emails to the list are very clear. What is Pilot saying?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Hannah Chadwick
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:15 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> I'm having trouble communicating with them it seems; at least via email.
> Guess I'll have to call them now...
> The thing is, Princess is super smart and she knows when she is being set up
> to do something; she does it well because she knows she'll get lots of
> praises. I can't predict when she will walk me in to something, and it seems
> to happen every two or so weeks. I can't seem to find any pattern to this
> though, so my best guess is that she can't figure out how much space to give
> so we can both go through safely.
> I am planning to do some pole work and give different contrasts and see if
> there are certain things she cannot see.
> Thank you, Hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lisa belville
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:03 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> Hmm, that is weird.  If I had the time and the correct training support I'd
> have her work the polls in the familiar area until she was working them in
> such a way that I wasn't being ran into them.  Then I'd gradually introduce
> new areas with similar arrangements and be sure she treated those areas in
> the same way.  Some dogs are better at generalizing than others, but this
> would be like her stopping at a curb in one part of town and blowing it in
> another.  Something that would annoy me, to be sure, which is why I'd do as
> others suggest and get the school involved.  Having Ex guide dog trainers is
> wonderful, but someone from Pilot needs to see what's happening, if nothing
> else than to make a note in your file.
>
> Lisa
>
> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
> TOMORROW!!
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
>
>> I'm willing to work things out in this working out process, but I'm
>> not willing to have either of us get seriously hurt. She seems to do
>> this in unfamiliar areas and that definitely is pretty bad because if
>> it's areas that I know well, then I could keep teaching her and she'll
>> improve. The thing is, I like to travel and explore places that are
>> bnot familiar and and those are the times I walk in to something, it's
>> usually a pole. I don't find anything unusual in places that Princess
>> seems to have trouble with.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:16 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> I know it sounds bad, but it is part of the working things out process
>> that both the dog and the person will go through.  I'm not trying to
>> dismiss the concerns at all, because I know how frustrating it is when
>> you think everything is fine and the dog does something unexpected
>> like that.  I agree with others who suggest setting Princess up in
>> your own area.  Can you arrange things so that they look as much like
>> the troubled area as possible?
>>
>> if she is only doing it in this one specific place, it might not be
>> her so much as it is something odd looking about the place that she
> doesn't like.
>> It could be a difference in the color and texture of the concrete or
>> something else most of us clueless bipeds don't notice.
>>
>>
>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>> TOMORROW!!
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>> I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. Every couple of weeks
>>> is pretty bad... I understand that they are only dogs and they have
>>> to have room to work with, but the times Princess walked me in to
>>> something are when there is a lot of room, and a lot of the times she
>>> does it in unfamiliar areas. Thank you for the suggestion, but I
>>> can't go back to the places she walked me in to things because those
>>> are areas I don't often go to; for example a college I was visiting.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:56 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>
>>> Well, every couple of weeks isn't really that bad.  Can you arrange
>>> to come to the same place every day and rework it for a few minutes?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>>> TOMORROW!!
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>
>>>
>>>>I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be a
>>>>guide  dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things and
>>>>told me,  "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things should
>>>>not be  occurring  every couple of weeks...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't
>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her
>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on a
>>>>> tour.
>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted
>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I
>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a
>>>>> horrible feeling.
>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>
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