[nagdu] Not all equal

Fri Apr 20 19:52:45 UTC 2012

Do come back and share how it all turned out.
I hope your move goes smooth.

Original message:
> my home visit hasn't happened yet since i'm moving soon. this will be my
> first.
> keri

> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to
> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak
> my heart."
> --Robert Sexton

> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there
> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to
> receive it."
> --Ivan Panin

> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it
> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not all equal

>> Who came out and did your walk with you?
>> I had Drew.
>> have you been to seeing eye yet, or is this your first time?

>> Original message:
>>> I think it is important they see your home area. Not necessarily each
>>> inch
>>> of your apt, house etc, but your area. some areas are dangerous for the
>>> dogs
>>> and yourself to be in.
>>> I myself will be attending Seeing eye
>>> keri

>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want
>>> to
>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>> speak
>>> my heart."
>>> --Robert Sexton

>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>> there
>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere
>>> to
>>> receive it."
>>> --Ivan Panin

>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put
>>> it
>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not all equal

>>>> I think the schools that have been around the longest have built there
>>>> reputations.  The schools have slightly different gimmicks and ways of
>>>> opporating that appeal to some and not necessarily others.  For example,
>>>> I
>>>> went to Pilot for 2 major reasons.  1. Because they breed poodles and 2.
>>>> Because I felt there application process was less invassive than other
>>>> schools.  I felt for instance, I didn't really feel it was there
>>>> buisness
>>>> to inspect my home.  Obviously these are my own quirks but they are what
>>>> they are!  Folks got mad at me because my decission was to go to Pilot
>>>> but
>>>> I found it mostly a good school.  If we choose to get picky, we can pick
>>>> any school apart and some, who have major issues maybe we should!  But,
>>>> good and bad dogs, administrators, and students all exist.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:12 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Not all equal

>>>>> Hannah said the other day that she was starting to wonder if all the
>>>>> schools were equal, or something to that effect.
>>>>> I don't think they are all equal.  One can get a great dog from all of
>>>>> them, and one can get a rotten dog from all of them, but I am convinced
>>>>> that one has a better probability of getting a great dog at some more
>>>>> than
>>>>> others.  We can disagree on which are best, of course.  Me, I feel
>>>>> confident that I have a high probability of success with GDB or TSE.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> would say Leader, and Jeanine would say GDF.  Everyone has an opinion.
>>>>> Further, different schools offer different things.  I want a dog who
>>>>> does
>>>>> excellent traffic work.  I wouldn't accept a dog if we hadn't had at
>>>>> least
>>>>> 2 or 3 traffic checks in class.  My dogs have saved my butt too many
>>>>> times
>>>>> from cars I didn't hear until the dog had already done his or her
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> And some schools have a more robust follow-up.  Some of the small ones
>>>>> can
>>>>> only do phone follow-up for people outside their area.  Some people are
>>>>> fine with that, and some want the option of having a trainer come in
>>>>> person to help with serious problems.  I'm in the latter category.  I
>>>>> remember a time when it was hard to get GDB out to New York to help me,
>>>>> and I've always wondered if it might have made a difference with the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> I
>>>>> had to retire early.  Probably not, but I was glad when something
>>>>> changed
>>>>> and they were able to send someone out more quickly.
>>>>> I just wanted to say this, for the benefit of people considering
>>>>> getting
>>>>> a
>>>>> dog, and for first-timers having a hard time.  We have to be inclusive
>>>>> and
>>>>> accepting of everyone.  An arrogant, "my school is the only good one"
>>>>> attitude is extremely annoying.  I know that firsthand--quite a few TSE
>>>>> graduates have that attitude, and it annoys the heck out of me.
>>>>> But I'm still convinced that some schools are better than others.  I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know how to measure it, and I may even be wrong, since others' opinions
>>>>> as
>>>>> to which is best differ from mine, and that's fine.  Maybe the only way
>>>>> to
>>>>> choose is to ask a lot of questions, and talk to people, and read the
>>>>> list. But choosing a school by whichever one accepts the application
>>>>> first, or by which one has the rare breed one fancies, or by which one
>>>>> is
>>>>> located in an area one would like to visit, might not always be the
>>>>> best
>>>>> method, though of course dumb chance sometimes works out fine. I chose
>>>>> GDB
>>>>> my first time because a friend and I visited it, and I liked the vibe.
>>>>> I
>>>>> liked the campus, and the people we talked to.  Not much to go on, but
>>>>> it
>>>>> worked out. But we didn't have the internet then, for better or worse.
>>>>> Tracy

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