[nagdu] Doggie Paws

Lyn Gwizdak linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Sun Apr 22 17:45:32 UTC 2012


Do you know the name of the classmate who is abusive to your dog in his 
stepping on your dog?  That is animal cruelity if he goes out of his way to 
come and step on your dog causing pain.  And the college needs to deal with 
that student's actions.  After all, animal cruelty is against the law!

Sounds like that guy has a mental problem and studies show that people who 
abuse animals are very likely to advance to or are currently abusing 
people - women and children.  If this student has these problems, they need 
to be addressed before something really bad happens to an animal or human. 
It sounds like misplaced aggression towards either you or another person and 
picks on the thing that can't fight back as wwell - your guide dog.  Have 
you had problems with this guy in the past?  At any rate, this needs to be 
addressed now.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws


> There is this one guy who steps on her every single time we meet for
> class. I have told him so many times to watch out for my dog but it's
> as though it goes in one ear and out the other. It's quite
> frustrating.
>
> On 4/19/12, Lisa belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com> wrote:
>> yeah, it's hard to hear their howls of pain, but what's better is the 
>> whole
>> mushy gushy "Oh, I didn't see him there," Yada Yada Yada.  I understand a
>> dark dog on a dark floor in a dark room, but in a well lit classroom in
>> broad daylight is a bit harder, though I think it's just a case of people
>> not used to seeing dogs, and the dog just not even making it past their
>> cursory glances.
>>
>>
>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>> TOMORROW!!
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>
>>
>>> actually, nearly getting stepped on a time or two did wonders for 
>>> Mitzi's
>>> firm conviction that she *needed* to sprawl all over the place. /lol/
>>> Fortunately, nobody got hurt, but she started being really good at
>>> figuring out how to be more out of the way. We still have a heck of a 
>>> time
>>>
>>> in crowded places like the bus or train or in waiting rooms, where there
>>> isn't really an under. Often, when she shows me a seat, she will pick 
>>> one
>>> where she can be tucked away but still watch the action. But I will 
>>> remain
>>>
>>> permanently nervous about long, black poodle legs! /smile/
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>> On 04/19/2012 11:29 AM, Lisa belville wrote:
>>>> Oh boy, I had this issue in college, too.  Pretty much every desk has 
>>>> one
>>>>
>>>> of those rack things people used to use for putting their books and
>>>> things on back in the day.  The best thing for me was to sort of 
>>>> parallel
>>>>
>>>> park Hunter so he'd be positioned on his belly with his paws tucked up
>>>> under him as much as possible.  I'd also try putting him at an angle so
>>>> his head would be under the desk next to my feet and his back part 
>>>> would
>>>> be closer to the front of the desk where I could block his paws if I 
>>>> had
>>>> to.
>>>>
>>>> Hunter was a very long dog, though, and this wasn't always possible. 
>>>> It
>>>> sounds mean, but getting stepped on accidentally once or twice actually
>>>> illustrated the point to Hunter more strongly than I could by keeping 
>>>> him
>>>>
>>>> tucked in.    Not saying you should let people tromp all over your 
>>>> girl's
>>>>
>>>> feet or anything.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>>>> TOMORROW!!
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> William, I don't use a backpack. I carry all my stuff in my purse, and
>>>>> I'm not a big fan of placing my purse on the ground.
>>>>> Robert, Thank you. I would do that if our desk chairs didn't have
>>>>> anything under them. However, under the chairs they decided to put a
>>>>> weird looking basket thing so it is hard to fit my dog.
>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method to convince their pups to tuck in
>>>>> their paws? Her body fits perfectly fine under my desk. The only thing
>>>>> that sticks out are her paws.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/19/12, Robert Hooper <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At my university, I traverse a number of different seating
>>>>>> arrangements. In
>>>>>> many class rooms, we have the standard table attached to chair
>>>>>> arrangement
>>>>>> in rows. The chairs have no cross-bars, so I just shove Bailey under 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> chair. I also get a seat close to a wall. He likes to take up as much
>>>>>> space
>>>>>> as possible, so he sprawls out a bit, however I've never really had 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problems I anticipated. I recommend putting the dog under the chair. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> have to do any odd positioning with my legs or anything--they just 
>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> either side of the dog. In a lecture hall, I lay him sideways in 
>>>>>> front
>>>>>> of me
>>>>>> if he won't fit--it makes it hard for people to sit next to me on
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> side, but oh well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Laurel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:22 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Juanita. Stockard loves to put her paws out and stretch out too.
>>>>>> Sometimes I try to sit on the side of the class room, I'm in college
>>>>>> too,
>>>>>> and there's usually not as much traffic on the sides. I also use my
>>>>>> feet to
>>>>>> help keep her rained in. At GDB they had me put Stockard in a down
>>>>>> position
>>>>>> on my left, so what I do is put her down on my left, and put my left
>>>>>> leg
>>>>>> kind of stretched out on the other side of her. I let her stick her
>>>>>> feet
>>>>>> out, but keep my foot on the other side of her feet so people see me
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> step over. Some people get annoyed, but they all never seem to mind
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> they realize why my leg is way out there, to protect Stocky's feet. 
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't wanna sit in an uncomfortable way, then I just tuck Stockard's
>>>>>> front
>>>>>> feet, because it's usually her front feet that shee sticks out, I 
>>>>>> tuck
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> behind my foot and keep her feet between her and my leg with my leg 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> her a little bit.
>>>>>> That might help too, just depends. But really it helps the most if 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> sit
>>>>>> on the side or in the very back or something maybe.
>>>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/18/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It's probably because you're dog is humungous lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:06 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know why, however, people never step on my dog. It's not 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> he will move either. If you are about to step on him, he will just
>>>>>>> stare you down. Maybe people feel the eyes on them, look down, and
>>>>>>> decide to watch there footing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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