[nagdu] Doggie Paws

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Sun Apr 22 18:08:37 UTC 2012 

I don't think that he is doing it on purpose. However, he is not being 
careful enough either.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws


> Do you know the name of the classmate who is abusive to your dog in his 
> stepping on your dog?  That is animal cruelity if he goes out of his way 
> to come and step on your dog causing pain.  And the college needs to deal 
> with that student's actions.  After all, animal cruelty is against the 
> law!
>
> Sounds like that guy has a mental problem and studies show that people who 
> abuse animals are very likely to advance to or are currently abusing 
> people - women and children.  If this student has these problems, they 
> need to be addressed before something really bad happens to an animal or 
> human. It sounds like misplaced aggression towards either you or another 
> person and picks on the thing that can't fight back as wwell - your guide 
> dog.  Have you had problems with this guy in the past?  At any rate, this 
> needs to be addressed now.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>
>
>> There is this one guy who steps on her every single time we meet for
>> class. I have told him so many times to watch out for my dog but it's
>> as though it goes in one ear and out the other. It's quite
>> frustrating.
>>
>> On 4/19/12, Lisa belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com> wrote:
>>> yeah, it's hard to hear their howls of pain, but what's better is the 
>>> whole
>>> mushy gushy "Oh, I didn't see him there," Yada Yada Yada.  I understand 
>>> a
>>> dark dog on a dark floor in a dark room, but in a well lit classroom in
>>> broad daylight is a bit harder, though I think it's just a case of 
>>> people
>>> not used to seeing dogs, and the dog just not even making it past their
>>> cursory glances.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>>> TOMORROW!!
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>
>>>
>>>> actually, nearly getting stepped on a time or two did wonders for 
>>>> Mitzi's
>>>> firm conviction that she *needed* to sprawl all over the place. /lol/
>>>> Fortunately, nobody got hurt, but she started being really good at
>>>> figuring out how to be more out of the way. We still have a heck of a 
>>>> time
>>>>
>>>> in crowded places like the bus or train or in waiting rooms, where 
>>>> there
>>>> isn't really an under. Often, when she shows me a seat, she will pick 
>>>> one
>>>> where she can be tucked away but still watch the action. But I will 
>>>> remain
>>>>
>>>> permanently nervous about long, black poodle legs! /smile/
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On 04/19/2012 11:29 AM, Lisa belville wrote:
>>>>> Oh boy, I had this issue in college, too.  Pretty much every desk has 
>>>>> one
>>>>>
>>>>> of those rack things people used to use for putting their books and
>>>>> things on back in the day.  The best thing for me was to sort of 
>>>>> parallel
>>>>>
>>>>> park Hunter so he'd be positioned on his belly with his paws tucked up
>>>>> under him as much as possible.  I'd also try putting him at an angle 
>>>>> so
>>>>> his head would be under the desk next to my feet and his back part 
>>>>> would
>>>>> be closer to the front of the desk where I could block his paws if I 
>>>>> had
>>>>> to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hunter was a very long dog, though, and this wasn't always possible. 
>>>>> It
>>>>> sounds mean, but getting stepped on accidentally once or twice 
>>>>> actually
>>>>> illustrated the point to Hunter more strongly than I could by keeping 
>>>>> him
>>>>>
>>>>> tucked in.    Not saying you should let people tromp all over your 
>>>>> girl's
>>>>>
>>>>> feet or anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>>>>> TOMORROW!!
>>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> William, I don't use a backpack. I carry all my stuff in my purse, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I'm not a big fan of placing my purse on the ground.
>>>>>> Robert, Thank you. I would do that if our desk chairs didn't have
>>>>>> anything under them. However, under the chairs they decided to put a
>>>>>> weird looking basket thing so it is hard to fit my dog.
>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method to convince their pups to tuck in
>>>>>> their paws? Her body fits perfectly fine under my desk. The only 
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> that sticks out are her paws.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/19/12, Robert Hooper <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At my university, I traverse a number of different seating
>>>>>>> arrangements. In
>>>>>>> many class rooms, we have the standard table attached to chair
>>>>>>> arrangement
>>>>>>> in rows. The chairs have no cross-bars, so I just shove Bailey under 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> chair. I also get a seat close to a wall. He likes to take up as 
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>> as possible, so he sprawls out a bit, however I've never really had 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> problems I anticipated. I recommend putting the dog under the chair. 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> have to do any odd positioning with my legs or anything--they just 
>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> either side of the dog. In a lecture hall, I lay him sideways in 
>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>> of me
>>>>>>> if he won't fit--it makes it hard for people to sit next to me on
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> side, but oh well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Laurel
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Juanita. Stockard loves to put her paws out and stretch out too.
>>>>>>> Sometimes I try to sit on the side of the class room, I'm in college
>>>>>>> too,
>>>>>>> and there's usually not as much traffic on the sides. I also use my
>>>>>>> feet to
>>>>>>> help keep her rained in. At GDB they had me put Stockard in a down
>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>> on my left, so what I do is put her down on my left, and put my left
>>>>>>> leg
>>>>>>> kind of stretched out on the other side of her. I let her stick her
>>>>>>> feet
>>>>>>> out, but keep my foot on the other side of her feet so people see me
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> step over. Some people get annoyed, but they all never seem to mind
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> they realize why my leg is way out there, to protect Stocky's feet. 
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't wanna sit in an uncomfortable way, then I just tuck Stockard's
>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>> feet, because it's usually her front feet that shee sticks out, I 
>>>>>>> tuck
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> behind my foot and keep her feet between her and my leg with my leg 
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> her a little bit.
>>>>>>> That might help too, just depends. But really it helps the most if 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>> on the side or in the very back or something maybe.
>>>>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/18/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It's probably because you're dog is humungous lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:06 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know why, however, people never step on my dog. It's not 
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> he will move either. If you are about to step on him, he will just
>>>>>>>> stare you down. Maybe people feel the eyes on them, look down, and
>>>>>>>> decide to watch there footing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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